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Old 4th Aug 04, 12:19 AM
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It's a bit odd to try and belittle someone and then say your not trying too!

Whatever about purple hearts - Kerry volunteered and he went to Vietnam. Did he have people firing bullets at him. Yes he did. Would I go for that no thanks.

To give a present day analogy. It seems obvious that none have us here have decided to run to the nearest Marine recruiter and bolster the troops in Iraq - Why?because we don't want a bomb up our asses.

So I think its time to give people a break who are far braver than us, (such as my brother in Kabala) tapping away on our keyboards.

Another 4 years of Bush. God help us! Well maybe his Bin Laden friends among the Saudi Oil family may disagree with that.
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I'm not in the USA so you can ignore me if you like :P but the way the US public votes will affect not only America but also how it deals with the rest of the world.

John F. Kerry may be a "Libertarian" and a "Peacenik" but i'm willing to bet that he isn't in bed with the saudi's, the Bin-Laden's nor the biggest oil suppliers in the world.
I bet he didn't ferry the Bin-Laden and Saudi Royal Familly members back to their homes in Saudi Arabia on a chartered jet when all other domestic and international flights were grounded in the wake of the 9/11 atrocities. He didn't even let the FBI question the above famillys about the whereabouts of Osama. WTF is up with that???? He's saying Osama is the root of all evil and he must be caught at all costs yet he lets his brothers and sisters go home without even questioning them about the man he would eventually start 2 wars in order to catch. Note that i said Started 2 wars- neither the "liberation" of Afghanistan nor Iraq are finished and you are still losing son's, daughters, husbands, wives and uncles.

I bet he didn't lie to, not only the American people (whom he is supposed to represent) but to the rest of the world as well, when he made his tenuous "links" from Bin-Laden to Iraq and Saddam Hussain.

I bet he doesn't think he is on a mission from god to break "The Axis Of Terror".

If Bill "Cuban Cigar" Clinton didn't get thrown out during the impeachment process for fiddling Monica Lewinski in his office you can sure bet he would have been thrown out for spewing as many lie's as Bush has.

Not only has Bush jr lied to you he has run roughshod over the Amendments and Civil Rights Bill's that your forefathers and ancestors fought to attain. Immigrants can now be arrested and held indefinately for no reason other than their country of origin. He can read your emails without you kowing, HE'S TRYING TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO SEARCH YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING!!!! He's stripping your freedom and your rights and you don't seem to notice

Don't get me wrong- i don't want another life, be it American, Australian etc to be lost. Your troops belived what they were told, they followed their orders and acted with good in their hearts. They thought they were fighting for the good of the World and their Country. They weren't to know that they were fighting for oil concessions and the right to run a pipeline to feed Bush's wealth. That's another crime that should be brought against bush Jnr- the loss of every serviceman and woman who died in his wars should be counted as murder committed by him.

Blair is just as bad, he only joined in the fight to keep you sweet- i feel sick to have voted for that psycophant in the first place

EDIT: tube posted his above reply whilst i was typing the above. he dismiss's michael Moore's work as "conspiracy theories". Read "Dude- Where's my country" check his facts and research the documents he cites. Check the laws that are being ammended to strip you of your rights. You can only dismiss him after you have checked the paperwork. Bush is in bed with the Saudi's and the Bin-Laden's- the world can see it but you can't?
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