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just_do_IT 6th Aug 01 01:34 AM

Hi!

I am hoping to help those new to FTP clients and servers! If you have any questions about getting programs or serving please ask me! :) PS: there is no such thing as a stupid question :cool:

-=[DaZliNk]=- 6th Aug 01 07:26 AM

[quote:0aef5b4c58]Originally posted by trminatr:

PS: there is no such thing as a stupid question :cool:
[/quote:0aef5b4c58]

ERrr... What's a question???

:D :D :D
LOL!!!

Welcome MOD, nice to have you on board.
:D

[ August 06, 2001 08:28 AM: Last edited by dazlink ]

just_do_IT 6th Aug 01 02:08 PM

lol :p

Camino 9th Aug 01 03:18 PM

Well, trminatr here is a question for you.(I have many but lets start with this on).Lets try to walk, running is for later... :o

I want to configure my PC to a FTP server?
But... i have a cableconnection and i believe that my IP location is dynamic. Isn't that a big problem? :confused:

TIA

BearCat 9th Aug 01 05:51 PM

Camino :
Most of the serving user's DO have a dynamic IP.
Thats NO problem :D

Visit
H*tp://www.no-ip.com
H*tp://www.dns2go.com
just to mention a few FREE domain provider's, letting you download a
small client that update's their DNS with your current IP at regular basis.

Then U can host a server, using a domainname, ie myftp.isthebest.com :D

Camino 10th Aug 01 12:21 PM

Thanks for this nfo BearCat. :cool:
My first step in this unknow world is taken. Now we are the move... If i encountered any other problem, i will let you know.

Cya Camino :D

just_do_IT 11th Aug 01 09:04 PM

Yes,

BearCats solution is the best one with a dynamic ip.

If you require the software to serve, let us know and one of us will "hook u up" :)

Camino 12th Aug 01 10:42 AM

So guys i am back with the next question.
I have gather some nfo about FTP sever software like G6, Serv-U and some others. And to tell you the truth it confused me a lot. The information on there mainsite isn't much a help for a newbie like me. :confused:

So...what's you advise, i need for now something simple to configure. And it helps me if somebody could provide me this proggy. ;)

TIA Camino :D

bakedbean 12th Aug 01 10:47 AM

Now here IS a dumb question..
If the server says "no hammering, set retry to > 60 secs" should I set 61 secs and number of retries to say 500! will this piss off the guy at the other end? Is this acceptable behavior? Or should I only retry say 20 times.

we ARE at the lowest level here....
Thanks
Ciao

just_do_IT 12th Aug 01 11:17 AM

Most people serving feel that 61 seconds is good for connection attempts. Generally try for 10-15 minutes, and if no success u can always try again later.

As for software, serv-u and bulletproof server software are both easy to set up.

If I remember correctly, that software comes with detailed instructions that go step by step to show you how to set up your server. And once u have done that, you can test the server by attempting to connect using a FTP client ie cuteftp or leech or whatever u prefer.

Serv-u can be downloaded directly from BearCat, or PM myself for Bulletproof if anyone wants to try it. :cool:

bakedbean 12th Aug 01 01:26 PM

Ok thanks for that.
I am using BPFTP now, which I find really good. It does most of the work by itself. I was using cuteFTP first, but some features wouldn't work (probably operators error!)

Ciao now!!

-=[DaZliNk]=- 12th Aug 01 05:45 PM

[quote:8b16aae2d7]Originally posted by BaKedBean:
Now here IS a dumb question..
If the server says "no hammering, set retry to > 60 secs" should I set 61 secs and number of retries to say 500! will this piss off the guy at the other end? Is this acceptable behavior? Or should I only retry say 20 times.

we ARE at the lowest level here....
Thanks
Ciao
[/quote:8b16aae2d7]

Normally the operators of the FTP site will banned the I.P address that is hammering
their server every 5 secs, so I say following the wishes of FTP site is a wise move.

:D

[ August 12, 2001 06:46 PM: Last edited by dazlink ]

just_do_IT 12th Aug 01 09:32 PM

Yes...

Always be sure to READ the server instructions BEFORE connecting!

Server software can be set to autoban people that try to connect more than what is specified...

VP 13th Aug 01 09:06 AM

I use 5 retries. If I cant get in after 5 times. I go back later. With a retry delay of 70 sec.

[ August 13, 2001 10:16 AM: Last edited by VP ]

Camino 16th Aug 01 02:02 PM

A small expression of my gratitude is here in place to the BetaNet Crew who help me with nfo and software to start my own FTP server.

So trminatr and Saskias BearCat this is dedicated to you. :cool: I am grateful for all the support you have given me.

BTW the server is running smoothly.

Thx a very happy dude ... Camino :D

Norway Kid 25th Aug 01 02:38 AM

If i try an ftp
I get Login not cor..every time
Any ftp same res...
This is one ftp guest download OK
Way??? :confused:

just_do_IT 25th Aug 01 11:04 AM

Which software are you using to connect? Also, check PM ;)

NosMo 3rd Sep 01 11:49 PM

Got a question here..... My firewall at work
will only allow FTP downloads from Port 21
yet most FTP sites seem to use every port imaginable <g> except 21. Am I screwed?
:confused:

smelly 4th Sep 01 02:20 AM

it depends what firewall u are using. u can cofigure it to let ports be opened or close thats where u can block incomin and out going

spyro 4th Sep 01 03:41 AM

Hi triminatr.
May I know how to prevent timeout error in CuteFTP, I got this error quite often when connecting to certain FTP.
Is there a way to prevent this from happening ? My connection is from a corp. LAN.
Thanks.

just_do_IT 4th Sep 01 08:51 AM

Cute FTP seems to run great one day and like crap the next for me.

If the server allows, enable the noop commands etc to ensure you dont get the boot.

And for fun try leech ftp - I have never had a problem with it - its simple to use as well.

spyro 4th Sep 01 10:45 AM

Hi trminatr, thanks for your prompt reply.
I will definitely give leech ftp a try.
btw, is there any ftp client that can connect to a ftp with port other than 21, if the client is sited behind a corp firewall ?
Thanks.

BearCat 4th Sep 01 06:57 PM

[b:8d649daf9d]spyro :[/b:8d649daf9d]
At my work, we have a FireWall, and a HTTP Proxy.
I use LeechFTP to get "out in the world", and home to my server :p
When I configure LeechFTP to use PASV mode and proxy ( with the correct HTTP proxy info added )
I have no problems accessing "strange" FTP server port's :D

spyro 4th Sep 01 07:37 PM

Hi BearCat.
Thanks for your suggestion. But I still having problem connecting to ftp with port number other than 21, although I have selected Options -> Firewall -> PASV Mode.
Is there any other work around ?
I have switched to leech ftp.
Thanks.

BearCat 5th Sep 01 01:20 AM

[b:7e248548ca]spyro :[/b:7e248548ca]
Do you have a HTTP proxy ?
Enter proxy.adress.shit :port in the HTTP Proxy setup in LeechFTP,
and add the proxy checkmark to your bookmark.
Then try to togle PASV / PORT mode.
[b:7e248548ca]OR[/b:7e248548ca] if you have a Fireawall with User/Pass, enter THAT in the Firewall setting's.

spyro 6th Sep 01 02:39 AM

Hi BearCat.
Thanks for so helpful.
I have entered the HTTP setting, as well as toggled between PASV/PORT mode, but still could not access ports other than 21.
I believed the corp. firewall is the culprit, but the sys ops do not want to unveil this info, what can I do now?
Thanks.

NosMo 8th Sep 01 04:43 PM

spyro......we are both in the same boat. At work , where I have access to a big pipe with T3 speeds, I am stuck with the firewall
at port 21.
I am told it is not that easy to re config these hardware firewalls. So in my case its install @home and download fom there. :(

[ September 08, 2001 05:44 PM: Last edited by NosMo ]

lickablepig 24th Oct 01 06:01 PM

Using RT314, @home cable/lan... Want to serve.

Port forwarding is where I'm stuck,

tia,
jiz

edit: too long.

[ October 24, 2001: Last edited by jizac ]</p>


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