13th May 04, 07:54 PM
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WOW.....
What have I started ??
At least this place is alive a bit ...
It has been rather quite lately
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13th May 04, 08:09 PM
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@unicorn
Read the following quotes which many muslim fundementalist swear by
as being the word of God and which they must heed:
It will probably explain the gist of what tubebuoy is on about:
"...now that a Book confirming their own has come to them from God, they deny it...they reply: 'We believe in what was revealed to us.' But they deny what has since been revealed, although it is truth...Say: 'Whoever is an enemy of Gabriel' (who has by God's grace revealed to you [Muhammad] the Koran as a guide...confirming previous scriptures)..will surely find that God is the enemy of the unbelievers.'...And now that an apostle has come to them from God confirming their own Scriptures, some of those to whom the Scriptures were given cast off the Book of God behind their backs...The unbelievers among the People of the Book, and the pagans, resent that any blessings should have been sent down to you from your Lord. " (Surah 2:88-, 98-, 103-)
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"The only true faith in God's sight is Islam." (Surah 3:19)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)
"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"Try as you may, you cannot treat all your wives impartially." (Surah 4:126-)
"The Jews and Christians say: 'We are the children of God and His loved ones.' Say: 'Why then does He punish you for your sins?" (Surah 5:18)
"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
"Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons...he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home..." (Surah 8:12-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"If you fear treachery from any of your allies, you may fairly retaliate by breaking off your treaty with them." (Surah 8:51-)
"...make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)
"Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians]...until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (Surah 9:27-)
"It is He who has sent forth His apostle with guidance and the true Faith [Islam] to make it triumphant over all religions, however much the idolaters [non-Muslims] may dislike it." (Surah 9:31-)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
"Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Say: 'Praise be to God who has never begotten a son; who has no partner in His Kingdom..." (Surah 17:111)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
"Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Shall the reward of goodness be anything but good?...Dark-eyed virgins sheltered in their tents...They shall recline on green cushions and fine carpets...Blessed be the name of your Lord..." (Surah 55:52-66-)
Basically, what this all means is, if you are not a believer... then you ain't got a
chance... forget it m8!!
No wonder those terrorists chant
"God is great" when they carry out their evil acts...
God has told them to act on his advice against the non believer....
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13th May 04, 09:53 PM
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What do you guys think about this?
http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm
I found it is pretty interestening.
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13th May 04, 09:57 PM
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@ italiano: I'm agnostic. I find everything about confessing to any kind of religion mysterious and sick. Theese texts are indeed ugly to me too.
Then they are the reason for tubebuoy to tell us the Liberals miss the point? Maybe better he replies himself. This is confusing even without we start to speak for eachother.
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13th May 04, 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by unicorn@May 13 2004, 02:53 PM
What do you guys think about this?
http://www.infowars.com/print/iraq/berg.htm
I found it is pretty interestening.
I think that raises SOME good points. Of course I was nearly attacked here for doubting too, so be careful with that URL lol
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14th May 04, 04:45 AM
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From Unibuoy:
"Actually, from what I have heard, US soldiers have commited rapes and murders of Iraqi prisoners, so we shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses. "
From tubebuoy:
Once again another Liberal misses the point. He seems to think that if we just send love and peace from the astral plane the Islamic Acid Space people will leave us alone. Wave your freak flag high bro! These people want to KILL YOU because you are non a believer!
From Unibuoy:
Meaning what?
It's easy to put words together but do you mind explain what the meaning is here? I understand it as the prisoners are held prisoners as they want to kill everybody everywhere not muslim and as they want to do all that killing it is okey to rape and humiliate them. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. As you are asking people to grow up you might help me out a little there?
From tubebuoy:
The jist of my reply was to point out how Liberals always try to drag America down by using a very twisted form of 'Moral Equivalency' which tries to convince the rest of us that because a few bad Americans did a bad thing we are just as bad as terroists. Just the other day that Icon of Liberalism, Teddy Kennedy ( the guy who drove off a bridge drunk off his a-s-s and ran for a lawyer while his 'date' lay drowning ) implied that the prison in question was no different than it was under Saddam, it just has "new management".
Apparently this sick twisted bastard hasn't seen the trenches filled with dead Iragi men, women and CHILDREN! I have! People fed feet first into industrial shredders! Young women raped in front of their fathers! Up to ( and maybe over ) THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND bodies dumped in mass graves!
This does NOT condone the few rapes and murders that may have been commited by a few American prison guards. If these reports are true ( and I believe they are ) these people will be prosecuted in front the ENTIRE WORLD! When do you think Syria, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and the rest of the Arab nations will hunt down and prosecute Nick Bergs murderers?
Now, about this, "Once again another Liberal misses the point. He seems to think that if we just send love and peace from the astral plane the Islamic Acid Space people will leave us alone. Wave your freak flag high bro! These people want to KILL YOU because you are non a believer! "
You seem to be a bit confused as to what I admit are some rather obscure references to the '60s "Flower Power" movement. I won't break it down word for word but it is aimed at all of todays kids who seem to think that if we just learn to understand and treat the terrorists with love and understanding everything will be beautiful.
What these children don't understand is that what they believe in is what the Islamic terrorists want to DESTROY most of all! Women's rights! Freedom of religion! Gay marriage! Drug usage! Abortion ( unless you gang rape your sister. In this case it's ok to behead her under Islamic law because now both her and the baby are 'unclean' ) In general, Western Civilization!
And you DARE compare my morality to a terrorist and suggest I "shouldn't throw stones" ?
Shame on you!
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14th May 04, 05:28 AM
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Not ashamed. I'm not MinnesotaKid. I think you should check whom you aim at when throwing poopie.
Apart from that you made some things clear.
Thank you.
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14th May 04, 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by unicorn@May 14 2004, 03:28 AM
Not ashamed. I'm not MinnesotaKid. I think you should check whom you aim at when throwing poopie.
Apart from that you made some things clear.
Thank you.
If you look a few posts above this one you will see I qouted your entire thread.
"from tubebuoys post:
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"Actually, from what I have heard, US soldiers have commited rapes and murders of Iraqi prisoners, so we shouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses. "
Once again another Liberal misses the point. He seems to think that if we just send love and peace from the astral plane the Islamic Acid Space people will leave us alone. Wave your freak flag high bro! These people want to KILL YOU because you are non a believer!
Meaning what?
It's easy to put words together but do you mind explain what the meaning is here? I understand it as the prisoners are held prisoners as they want to kill everybody everywhere not muslim and as they want to do all that killing it is okey to rape and humiliate them. Maybe I'm getting it wrong. As you are asking people to grow up you might help me out a little there? "
When threads get 3 or 4 pages deep and people start doing the copy/paste of other peeps qoutes things can get a bit convoluted. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
I now direct my comments of "shame" towards the 'Kid'. Unless of course he was quoting someone else
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P.S. From Kelewyn: Re: "Grow Up" "No reason to be rude"
You are correct sir. My bad!
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14th May 04, 08:24 AM
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They will get what they deserve. God rest their souls.
Now for a Moment of silence!!
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14th May 04, 02:22 PM
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With a topic this sensitive, there is going to be alot of strong emotions surfacing. So just to verify where B1 stands on this type of thread.
No one is going to be condemned on how they feel by the site administration. That isn't to say that any individual here including the crew won't post their opposing opinion. All we ask is that anything posted doesn't escalate into something where two or more members can't coexist here peacefully. At that point we would need to take appropriate action.
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