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Old 4th Dec 02, 05:43 AM
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craftyc, thanks for the reply for the first two questions

For the third one, I found a small tool called "explore2fs-1.00pre6" which has read-only access under Windows to the ext2/3 file system of Linux. Thus I was able to view the contents of the ext2 partitions. But the thing is you can't have write access
what I need it to copy my C:\Downloads\VMWare to D: drive (which is now in ext2 file system. I can't access the C: drive the linux (made a new topic for that) so I can't access the VMWare installation from Linux.

For those first two answers: I should check them as soon as I reboot.

And oscar2043, your info great whenever for some reason I have to get rid of linux...
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Originally posted by oscar2043@Dec 2 2002, 03:28 AM
from linux:
lilo -u /dev/hda
from Xp :
boot into xp recovery console
run fixmbr
help (for help) about other commands
oscar2043, where do we type "lilo -u /dev/hda" in linux, please? is it in Interactive Mode"?

i tried to change the settings in LiLo to get back the graphical boot menu (also tried Grub but it was a text based boot menu) and it became worse

after i restarted, the screen was like this:

Verifying pool data....
99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99

the hard disk light was flashing till the "99"s were generated, but stopped after that. i booted from the XP CD and ran fixmbr, but the same thing happened so booted again with the XP CD and reinstalled XP. and after all those trouble, reinstalled Linux

i am still struggling to install VMWare. i managed to access the VMWare folder thanks to craftyc, using /mnt/nt but i have no idea what to do with ".tar.gz" (VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz) i extracted them but couldn't see a file with the .rpm extension. (oh! btw, in windows: just dbl click the .exe and press next, next, next and finish. )

but i really like to try this challenging things. i am so embarrased at my performance. but anyway, all of us should learn some thing for the first time.
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Old 5th Dec 02, 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by McoreD+Dec 5 2002, 08:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (McoreD @ Dec 5 2002, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--oscar2043@Dec 2 2002, 03:28 AM
from linux:
lilo -u /dev/hda
from Xp :
boot into xp recovery console
run fixmbr
help (for help) about other commands
oscar2043, where do we type "lilo -u /dev/hda" in linux, please? is it in Interactive Mode"?

i tried to change the settings in LiLo to get back the graphical boot menu (also tried Grub but it was a text based boot menu) and it became worse

after i restarted, the screen was like this:

Verifying pool data....
99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99

the hard disk light was flashing till the "99"s were generated, but stopped after that. i booted from the XP CD and ran fixmbr, but the same thing happened so booted again with the XP CD and reinstalled XP. and after all those trouble, reinstalled Linux

i am still struggling to install VMWare. i managed to access the VMWare folder thanks to craftyc, using /mnt/nt but i have no idea what to do with ".tar.gz" (VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz) i extracted them but couldn't see a file with the .rpm extension. (oh! btw, in windows: just dbl click the .exe and press next, next, next and finish. )

but i really like to try this challenging things. i am so embarrased at my performance. but anyway, all of us should learn some thing for the first time. [/b][/quote]
You type lilo -u /dev/hda in a terminal as root.

You can in Grub get a graphical boot menu, just add "splashimage=(hdx,x)/path/to/image/files" to your /boot/grub/menu.lst (I think that's where it's kept).

Anyway, for VMWare, you do the following in a terminal.

tar xfvz VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz (You can use the <TAB> button on the keyboard to autocomplete the name)
cd vmware-distrib (change directory into the one created in the step above. Again you can use <TAB>)
./vmware-install.pl (The dot and forward slash are important. The wonderful <TAB> can be used here as well).

PM me if you need more detailed instructions.

The above steps are exactly the same as Windows. You unzip a file, change into the directory created, then execute the installation script.

You will soon get used to the way things work in Linux, so don't worry. We all were once new to Linux.
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Old 5th Dec 02, 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by McoreD+Dec 5 2002, 08:51 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (McoreD @ Dec 5 2002, 08:51 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--oscar2043@Dec 2 2002, 03:28 AM
from linux:
lilo -u /dev/hda
from Xp :
boot into xp recovery console
run fixmbr
help (for help) about other commands
oscar2043, where do we type "lilo -u /dev/hda" in linux, please? is it in Interactive Mode"?

i tried to change the settings in LiLo to get back the graphical boot menu (also tried Grub but it was a text based boot menu) and it became worse

after i restarted, the screen was like this:

Verifying pool data....
99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99

the hard disk light was flashing till the "99"s were generated, but stopped after that. i booted from the XP CD and ran fixmbr, but the same thing happened so booted again with the XP CD and reinstalled XP. and after all those trouble, reinstalled Linux

i am still struggling to install VMWare. i managed to access the VMWare folder thanks to craftyc, using /mnt/nt but i have no idea what to do with ".tar.gz" (VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz) i extracted them but couldn't see a file with the .rpm extension. (oh! btw, in windows: just dbl click the .exe and press next, next, next and finish. )

but i really like to try this challenging things. i am so embarrased at my performance. but anyway, all of us should learn some thing for the first time. [/b][/quote]
lilo -u /dev/hda things like these must be run in a terminal ( the black screen with white letters ). lilo, grub...actually everything is very dangerous if you dont know what are you doing and it is not easy to learn about linux without reading about every step. Too much reading, to much time. Linux it is not so easy.

It is a good idea installing mc (midnight commander, much like norton commander). Open a terminal and run mc to see if it is already installed.
It is great to opening *.tar.gz (it copies the content to folders)
Then cd new folder and run
./configure
make
make install
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Old 6th Dec 02, 08:22 AM
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This finalizes most of the problems I asked above, thanks to craftyc and oscar2043

Remember, I talked about not having that blue screen Linux boot menu? That's because the "Trend ChipAway Virus" was enabled in my BIOS I suspected that should be the reason, as the BIOS warned "A boot virus has been detected in your system" when Linux started to boot. I had to press "[C] for Continue anyway, for each time I booted in Linux. Today I disabled it. And now I get that lovely blue colored boot loader screen

My second problem was: that eth01 was trying to detect a LAN connection and it delayed the Linux booting. As I unticked auto-detection while I reinstalled Linux, now it doesn't give me a pain anymore.

Also as Windows XP (or any other Windows) can't see ext2/3 file system, I downloaded a small tool from http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ and it supports reading the ext2/3 file system. I am able to copy files and folders from those partitions to Windows partitions.

Via a PM of craftyc I knew how to run VMware, (in terminal: type vmware).

From now and so on, I hope my questions are not n00b any more to ask under this thread in the future
Because, thanks to you guys, I now have a basic idea of how to install .tar.gz and .rpm files.
Also from my personal experiments I know a little.

Thank you very much for gaining me confidence and courage to use Linux
So see guys in other threads
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