Music Sharing Legal by Law

[Cyberion]

Ya... I serious doubt that the people will actually convince the RIAA & MPAA to lessen their grasp on audio and video media. What I mean is that, piracy is still piracy, even if you back it up for your self. Unforturnately we ALL could learn from the pirates and theives amoungs us. As there are the ones who eventually allow to get a glimpse of technology or information of the near future. Its never, nor good, that this happens.

I checked theregister.co.uk & wired yes but no note or evidence has @ a reputable site, besides us.

Anyone.. please let us know if this is true. Colleges and Universities are going to HATE... I mean HATE this bill/act. Imagine the extreme amount of traffic on wide/broad band networks. This would things HORRIBLE.

[Goofy4769]

its about time Metallica figured out they were wasting there breath on something they just can't stop......I am going to let everyone I know about this terrific news.

[Dudelive]

I have a question, if its legal then why all the law suites to begin with? Dont get me wrong I love a good song, and who is to say I dont have it in my old LP or CD collection if i do download it (I just told my age!). Anyway, I think the RIAA needs to "loosen" up a little, its something that will never be won! I have it posted on my site also So let me get this right, napster could they file a wrongful [some legal technical term here] suite to make the RIAA pay to get them back on there feet? So now I can download just music and video if I own the orginal copy? or how does that work now?

Spread the Word,
~Dude

[Capricornxs]

all the lawsuits still continue b/c riaa has the money and can still drag out the lawsuit. almost 10/10 times if they sue you, you'll end up settling b/c well, they can drag the case for years and you'll end up losing more money to lawyers than settling.

it's a clear case of i have more money so i can play bigger games.

and since they also have political powers (in states like California obviously), there aren't many lawyers dare to challenge them on this issue.

this law doesn't protect "profeting" companies like Napster or kazaa, or ISPs like varizone. so even if varizone has the money to battle them in court, it's not protected under those laws. and those who are protected, don't have money to keep up with the lawsuits. see where everything just works out for them

[Zone-MR]

@ Cyberion.

No, it doesnt mean its legal to 'pirate' music. It means that making a personal non-commercial copy of a recording weather you own it or not is not classes as piracy, due to the law which taxes blank media.

The only time you are entering a grey area is if you are running a P2P service with advertising or whatever as you lose the argument that its non-commercial.

Of course the RIAA wont like it, and it doesnt make a difference if its legal or not as if you have a company like the RIAA bullying you, then your rights immediatly do not apply as you arent a financial match. Sick system, but nothing we can do about it.

As to colleges, its not bad news, its BRILLIANT news. It means they won't have legal risks if their students trade music. Bandwidth problems are a different matter alltogether. They can impost restirctions, make policies that prohibit file swapping, and decide for themselves what to allow. It only means they wont have LEGAL hassles to worry about in addition to techincal problems.

[~*McoreD*~]

If the music industries sell the artists' albums as Audio CDs but most of us listen to them by downloading them from the internet, i reckon they should react in the same way. They should stop/limit selling Audio CDs (which can be easily ripped to mp3 files and can be shared via online) and release WMA/MP3 files with DRM enabled. This will affect majority of us people. I don't know whether this works practically but just my stupid idea.

[Jessica]

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Originally posted by Zone-MR@May 16 2003, 12:44 PM
@ Cyberion.

No, it doesnt mean its legal to 'pirate' music. It means that making a personal non-commercial copy of a recording weather you own it or not is not classes as piracy, due to the law which taxes blank media.

The only time you are entering a grey area is if you are running a P2P service with advertising or whatever as you lose the argument that its non-commercial.

Of course the RIAA wont like it, and it doesnt make a difference if its legal or not as if you have a company like the RIAA bullying you, then your rights immediatly do not apply as you arent a financial match. Sick system, but nothing we can do about it.

As to colleges, its not bad news, its BRILLIANT news. It means they won't have legal risks if their students trade music. Bandwidth problems are a different matter alltogether. They can impost restirctions, make policies that prohibit file swapping, and decide for themselves what to allow. It only means they wont have LEGAL hassles to worry about in addition to techincal problems.

ok ..

so if its put in taxes...and they don't (or can't) stop 'piracy' ...
you know they'll just raise the taxes and prices of media to collect.

Hurting people that don't use CD-Rs for audio, but for only data/multimedia backups etc.

Its not as good as you make it sound.

[Darkwolven]

Well the point here is that whether it is legal or not, the RIAA and MPAA should have absolutely NO RIGHTS to go after ISPs. That is like fining the states because drugs get moved over their roads or why for instance are the RIAA and MPAA not suing companies like Rhinosoft or GlobalSCAPE because their FTP programs are used for just as much piracy as the P2P programs are, but the RIAA and MPAA are going for the "easy kills" and in the process killing fair use.

Just recently the MPAA sued the company that makes DVDxCopy saying that making archival backups was ILLEGAL! The judge took less than 24 hours of the 90 days she was allowed to come to a summary decision that software that allowed copies even for archival backup was illegal under the DMCA!

The day that they jail me for making an archival backup of stuff I legally own is the day that they can bite me!

[Cyberion]

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Originally posted by Zone-MR@May 16 2003, 12:44 PM
@ Zone.

As to colleges, its not bad news, its BRILLIANT news. It means they won't have legal risks if their students trade music. Bandwidth problems are a different matter alltogether. They can impost restirctions, make policies that prohibit file swapping, and decide for themselves what to allow. It only means they wont have LEGAL hassles to worry about in addition to techincal problems.

If your refering to the massive amounts of information throughput that is required. Bandwidth issues are becoming sever in many Colleges and Universities.

Other then MIT which was reported have a wide band OC-128, schools do not have the resources and acquire more line capacity.

Yes.. Making trading legal will allow schools to help in the fair distribution of information. Though this for me is a huge grey area.

Hope I make sence ....