Simple Network Job

[agamemnon]

Hello All. I would like some advice on a simple network job. I have two pcs that I would like to hook to the broadband cable; also I would like to share my ancient Lexmark 3200 printer and my somewhat newer Canon N676U scanner. PC1 is a NEC pc with a FR520mobo with everything onboard, an AMD K6-2,500mhz, 252 sdram- uses a SOHOware NDC Fast 10/100 Fast Ethernet.
PC2 is A SonyRX650 w/ a P4B266LM(ASUS) mobo, a P4 1.6 gb, 512 ram; a 10base T/100-TXFast Ethernet.
So if any one could give me any advice on this little problem I would really appreciate it.
Also the local isp Shaw uses a Terayon TeraPro cable modem.

[robinwilson16]

Hello, You would need to buy an ethernet adapter for the other computer as well and then if you are only conecting two computer you would not need a hub and could just buy the type of wire that goes from one pc to another. For each computer you would need to make sure Nwlink Netbios, NWlink IPX SPX compatible transport protocol, file and printer sharing, client for microsoft networks are all installed and enabled. Then plugging in the lead would connect and allow you to share files. To share your internet connection you would need to enable internet protocol as well.

I think this is how I did it! I have managed to network my pc and laptop together and can now print to the other computer's printer and acess the files on the other computer's hard drive. I still haven't found a way to get the other computer to share the internet conection but I think that is my isp. It should work if you right click on the internet connection and go to the advanced tab and enable sharing.

Hope this helps

[kamikazee]

Robin if you are using XP then you have to enable ICS in the network properties, It will say allow another computer to gain access to the internet using this computer... Two real problems with this tho is that in order to use the internet or share the printer is the computer that is being shared has to be on all the time and it really uses the main computer bandwidth...Routers are coming down in price and alot of them have print servers built in, if you can afford this then maybe you should look at a router..imho

and one other thing robin if using windows 98 then you have to go into add/remove programs and add windows programs and add ICS



Last edited by kamikazee at Aug 23 2002, 08:59 AM

@ Robin....NWlink netbios???? why? I saw no mention of any Netware.

@agamemnon

Forget netware protocols. Get a cheap hub ($10-20) and two cat5 cables. The only protocol you need is TCP/IP and set the IP address on each machine (Box1=192.168.0.2 Box2=192.168.0.3, subnet mask=255.255.255.0) These settings are in the Network connections property sheet, also while you are there tick the boxes for Client for MS networks. The best way for sharing is a router. I use a Dlink di-704p ($55-75) This model also has a print server and will almost set itself up right out of the box. If you are paying the freight on a cable connection, you need hardware protection and a router is the best way.

Zo

*edit*
the above method only works with a router. For a non routered connection, you would need to use ICS and here is some info:
Open Network Connections.
Click the dial-up, local area network, PPPoE, or VPN connection you want to share, and then, under Network Tasks, click Change settings of this connection.
On the Advanced tab, select the Allow other network users to connect through this computer's Internet connection check box.
If you want this connection to dial automatically when another computer on your home or small office network attempts to access external resources, select the Establish a dial-up connection whenever a computer on my network attempts to access the Internet check box.
If you want other network users to enable or disable the shared Internet connection, select the Allow other network users to control or disable the shared Internet connection check box.
Under Internet Connection Sharing, in Home networking connection, select any adapter that connects the computer sharing its Internet connection to the other computers on your network.
Important

You should not use this feature in a network with other domain controllers, DNS servers, gateways, DHCP servers, or systems configured for static IP.
When you enable Internet Connection Sharing, the network adapter connected to the home or small office network is given a new static IP address configuration. Existing TCP/IP connections on the Internet Connection Sharing computer are lost and need to be reestablished. For example, if Internet Explorer is connecting to a Web site when Internet Connection Sharing is enabled, refresh the browser to reestablish the connection.
To use the Internet Connection Sharing feature, users on your home or small office network should configure TCP/IP on their local area connection to obtain an IP address automatically. Home or small office network users must also configure Internet options for Internet Connection Sharing.
Notes

To open Network Connections, click Start, point to Settings, click Control Panel, and then double-click Network Connections.
You must be logged on as an administrator or a member of the Administrators group in order to complete this procedure. If your computer is connected to a network, network policy settings may also prevent you from completing this procedure.
Internet Connection Sharing and Internet Connection Firewall cannot be enabled on incoming connections.
For information about the protocols, services, interfaces, and routes that are automatically configured, click Related Topics.
To enable Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) Discovery and Control on Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Millennium Edition computers, run the Network Setup Wizard from the CD or floppy disk on these computers. For more information about the Network Setup Wizard, click Related Topics.
For ICS Discovery and Control to work on Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Millennium Edition computers, Internet Explorer version 5.0 or later must be installed.
The Home networking connection is only present when two or more network adapters are installed on the computer.
Internet Connection Sharing, Internet Connection Firewall, Discovery and Control, and Network Bridge are not available on Windows XP 64-Bit Edition.


here is a good link-**http://www.practicallynetworked.com/**



Last edited by zonko at Aug 23 2002, 11:42 AM

[JacKDynne]

You can also try this link too agamemnon:

h**p://www.homenethelp.com/

[HamsterX]

Hi agamemnon

It looks you want something simple, so I'll try to keep this simple too...

My home setup is very near to what you want to do:

PC1:
AMD K6-3 @ 450 MHz running Windows 98
One LAN card
All drives shared with PC2
Prints to PC2's printer.

PC2:
P3 @ 600 MHz running Windows XP
LAN card 1 connected to cable modem, IP assigned from ISP via DHCP
LAN card 2 connected to PC1's LAN card wia twisted-pair cable.
Printer, ZIP and all drives shared with PC1


1) There's no need for any protocol other than TCP/IP;

2) The twisted-pair cable is enough for two PCs, if you don't care that PC2 needs to be powered on for PC1 to print and have access to broadband internet. If that's your case, there's no need for hubs nor hardware routers/switches.

3) For PC2 to act as internet gateway for PC1 you can use WinXP or Win98SE 's built-in Internet Connection Sharing or some sort of routing NAT software like WinRoute Lite. For file/printer sharing, no additional software is needed.

4) Hardware brands are not important at all.

5) Some cable modems can be connected to the PC via USB... If your cable modem is connected to your PC via USB (mine *is not*), you don't need an additional LAN card.

This setup is what I'm using since five years ago... no problems at all and it even works fine when I play with Linux distros...

[agamemnon]

Thanks guys this give me lots to work on

[Jessica]

www.cablemodemhelp.com
there's a section around there some where that'll give u all the setups.
and walk you thru them.

[redkitty]

It's also possible to get an additional IP address from some ISP's for an extra $5 or so per month. If you do this, then you can set up the LAN with a simple hub or switch and it won't matter whether either computer is on or off since they are not sharing an address. Note that unless you have static IP addresses on the same subnet, you will need to install NetBEUI or IPX to handle file sharing on the LAN.