The Showdown...

[skloo77]

How many of us actually supports the idea of having a war?

Frankly speaking, I myself actually supports the idea.

I think that it is time that those people are being taught something. That they are not the only ones on this planet.

I think that the way of their living aren't really right. I would not proceed to comment further as I am afraid that I may offend others.

Voice your comment on the WAR?

[Sephiroth]

I don't agree with it.... I'll follow your lead and not go into detail so I don't offend others, but I don't agree with it

[Cyberion]

I think war should never happen, as I believe its for people with closed minds. I'm not tring to be too neive, however we must think about our problems before we just strike someone because they did something that we don't like.

In that case I would be extremely bitter and have hate pouring out from every poor. I don't have too much hate in me, cause my love and passion fills me up.

I may be nuts :P

My 5 cents (CAD)

[Leech]

When war is a last resort there is no way around it .. Bush has tried every way possible to have a peaceful resolution, the UN played games and Hussein played games ..

in the instance of what has happen it is the only way to go - so I am for it ..

[adams]

i'm not for it, but hopefully they will just get the job done quick.

[BigHead50]

I don't like war either, BUT I refuse to stand by and wait for some psyco exstremist to kill my girlfriend and her kids because "we" are "infidels"...

The world is a bad place, and has MANY bad people in it...

the ONLY way to protect Freedom, is to Fight for it...

Just hideing, and hoping that the bad guys either just go away, or Kill someone else besides you is NOT going to make this world safe....

IF we just turn the other cheek, and Ignore these terrorists, then we need to hire ALOT more Fireman and Police to Clean up after the WEEKLY 911's that will follow....

Support our Troups....

Support our Freedom....

One Nation Under GOD.....

SeeYa

[just_do_IT]

I dont like war either.

And as a Canadian, I am embarrassed by my government. My government will not participate in this campaign. They say they wont as the UN does not agree.

I would like everyone to take a small history lesson, and this is probably a review for everyone. This is very small, as the examples I show are only two.

World War 2 - we ignored a dictator and ended up in a full blown world war. The US saved our asses.

And most recently in 1991, a dictator by the name of saddam decided that he had the green light to invade Kuwait. And again, the US went to work.

I hate war. But I hate the possibility of uncertainty, and I dont exactly enjoy fear of the future - especially for my children.

The current crisis is unfolding and its becoming quite clear that saddam likes to kill and torture US soldiers (against the Geneva convention?) and apparently likes to put civilians on rooftops of suspected Iraq government operatives. And now we might even see the "smoking gun." An apperent chemical factory that the Iraq governent does not have has maybe been found. And it has only been a few days since this campaign has started. I wonder what else will be found in the coming days.

The Iraqi people need to be rescued. Some may die from war operatives... but imagine the amount that would continue to die if the leader was left to torture and kill his own people. Saddam has killed, tortured and experimented with his own people. His children apparently rape women whenever the need is felt!

I dont like getting into a political arena with my brothers and sisters at betaone. We are all entitled to our opinions - that is what a world community is all about. And forgive me if I have offended anyone here - but in my opinion this war is necessary. Saddam must be removed, and by WHATEVER force is necessary.

And once again I wish to put forth my sadness in regards to my government. Most Canadians dont feel the way our PM does.

And God Bless America and Americas Soldiers - god speed to all of them.

[MinnesotaKid]

A portion of The War Prayer
By Mark Twain, written ~1904

It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and sputtering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spreads of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest deeps of their hearts and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country and invoked the God of Battles, beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpouring of fervid eloquence which moved every listener.

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle - be Thou near them! With them, in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it - for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen."


I FULLY support the actions of my government and the troops who are fighting and dying for their country. Look at how Iraq treats our POW's. I can't imagine the HORROR those people are going through, especially the woman.

War is hell. Talk to any war veteran. My dad fought in Korea, so I know of what I speak. But our freedom does not come without cost and sacrifice. While I respect my fellow citizens right to protest, I disagree.

We had 3000 people MURDERED on 9/11. What would it take for you to fight for your country? A nuclear attack on a US city? Millions dead? Probably not even then. You take your freedom for granted. At least you won't have your tongue cut out, be put in an acid bath or a human shredder as is done in Iraq.

Now that we are in Iraq, I say that we must win. If we back out now, it only shows the terrorists that we don't have the HEART to defend our principles. That would do more damage than anything that will happen in the war.

I remember Bush saying after 9/11 that it's time for the countries of the world to decide: Are you with us or against us? We are starting to see how things will shake out.

Iraq is only the beginning. We still have at least 2 other axis countries to deal with. It is really the beginning of WWIII. A fight the survival of our civilization. We just don't know it yet.

War is a part of human nature. Look back on human history. And only the strong survive. To put it more bluntly, it is kill or be killed, plain and simple.

MNKid

[skloo77]

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Originally posted by Sephiroth@Mar 24 2003, 10:25 AM
I don't agree with it.... I'll follow your lead and not go into detail so I don't offend others, but I don't agree with it

well, it is best that such things don't happen. cos when it does, there is sure to be pain to those who may lose their loved ones.

[Seducer]

I am not againts war but it should be in accordance with the UN. But what US did, I am againts with it....it seems that UN now doesnt have any use at all.