BetaONE will rise again!


Reply
  #1  
Old 12th Mar 04, 12:03 AM
unicorn unicorn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: GMT+1
Posts: 851
unicorn is on a distinguished road
Unused space on hard drives recovered?

From the INQUIRER.

"A method which was discovered by Scott Komblue and documented by Wiley Siler which claim you can recover unused areas of the hard drive in the form of hidden partitions."

You'll find instructions in the article.

Read in:
Code:
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14597
Interesting results to date:

Western Digital 200GB SATA
Yield after recovery: 510GB of space

IBM Deskstar 80GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 150GB of space
__________________
unicorn
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12th Mar 04, 12:03 AM
Thankbot Thankbot is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Seph's basement, Chained to his bed
Posts: 2,191
Thankbot
1 User already said Thank You!

JacKDynne
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12th Mar 04, 12:10 AM
unicorn unicorn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: GMT+1
Posts: 851
unicorn is on a distinguished road
And before you do anything, read all the links in the article and make a backup... BootIT NG can make a backup of the partition table for you, as well as f the partition you don't want to loose.
A fun ideea to play with though!
__________________
unicorn
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12th Mar 04, 05:12 AM
Dave Dave is offline
BetaONE Supporter
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 173
Dave is an unknown quantity at this point
Hmmm, very interesting. Thanks unicorn.
Anybody here tried it yet?

And what exactly do you think ghost does to make it happen?
I prefer drive image myself but I got a couple old drives laying around I wouldn't mind screwing up.
Dave
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12th Mar 04, 06:38 AM
SlickVic78's Avatar
SlickVic78 SlickVic78 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: New York, USA
Posts: 515
SlickVic78 is an unknown quantity at this point
I heard that data corruption or deleted files can occur... Especially when you more than double the capacity of a drive that is meant for only half, even less than the original. Very interesting though... If someone dares to try it, please let us all know how it turned out.

Thanks,
-SlickVic78
__________________
  • Pentium 4 3.20GHz Processor
  • 1 Gig DDR 400MHz RAM
  • 100 Gig 7200 RPM Western Digital HDD
  • 80 Gig 7200 RPM Western Digital HDD
  • Lite-On LTR-52327S CD-RW Burner
  • Lite-On SOHW-1633S DVD Burner
  • ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
  • Sound Blaster Audigy
  • Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP-2
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 13th Mar 04, 02:04 AM
TRYJAY's Avatar
TRYJAY TRYJAY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: IN FRONT OF 'PUTER
Posts: 187
TRYJAY is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to TRYJAY Send a message via AIM to TRYJAY Send a message via MSN to TRYJAY Send a message via Yahoo to TRYJAY
Tuesday 09 March 2004, 14:33

READER WILEY SILER has sent us a method which he said was discovered by Scott Komblue and documented by himself which they claim can recover unused areas of the hard drive in the form of hidden partitions.
We haven't tried this here at the INQUIRER, and would caution readers that messing with your hard drive is done at your own peril and very likely breaches your warranty. Here is what Wiley and Scott did. µ

* UPDATE Does this work? We're not going to try it on our own machine thank you very much. Instead, we're waiting for a call from a hard drive company so we can get its take on these claims.

** UPDATE II A representative for large hard drive distributor Bell Micro said: "This is NOT undocumented and we have done this in the past to load an image of the original installation of the software. When the client corrupted the o/s we had a boot floppy thatopened the unseen partition and copied it to the active or seen partition. It is a not a new feature or discovery. We use it ourselves without any qualms".

*** UPDATE III See the letters column today, here.

Required items
Ghost 2003 Build 2003.775 (Be sure not to allow patching of this software) 2 X Hard Drives (OS must be installed on both.) For sake of clarity we will call the drive we are trying to expand (T) in this document (means Target for partition recover). The drive you use every day, I assume you have one that you want to keep as mater with your current OS and data, will be the last dive we install in this process and will be called (X) as it is your original drive.

1. Install the HDD you wish to recover the hidden partitions (hard drive T) on as the master drive in your system with a second drive as a slave (you can use Hard Drive X if you want to). Any drive will do as a slave since we will not be writing data to it. However, Ghost must see a second drive in order to complete the following steps. Also, be sure hard drive T has an OS installed on it You must ensure that the file system type is the same on both drive (NTFS to NTFS or FAT32 to FAT32, etc)

2. Install Ghost 2003 build 2003.775 to hard drive T with standard settings. Reboot if required.

3. Open Ghost and select Ghost Basic. Select Backup from the shown list of options. Select C:\ (this is the drive we want to free partition on on hard drive T) as our source for the backup. Select our second drive as the target. (no data will be written so worry not). Use any name when requested as it will not matter. Press OK, Continue, or Next until you are asked to reboot.

Critical step
4. Once reboot begins, you must shutdown the PC prior to the loading of DOS or any drivers. The best method is to power down the PC manually the moment you see the BIOS load and your HDDs show as detected.

5. Now that you have shutdown prior to allowing Ghost to do its backup, you must remove the HDD we are attempting to expand (hard drive T which we had installed as master) and replace it with a drive that has an OS installed on it. (This is where having hard drive X is useful. You can use your old hard drive to complete the process.) Place hard drive T as a secondary drive in the system. Hard drive X should now be the master and you should be able to boot into the OS on it. The best method for this assuming you need to keep data from and old drive is:

Once you boot into the OS, you will see that the second drive in the system is the one we are attempting to expand (hard drive T). Go to Computer Management -> Disk Management

You should see an 8 meg partition labeled VPSGHBOOT or similar on the slave HDD (hard drive T) along with a large section of unallocated space that did not show before. DO NOT DELETE VPSGHBOOT yet.

6. Select the unallocated space on our drive T and create a new primary or extended partition. Select the file system type you prefer and format with quick format (if available). Once formatting completes, you can delete the VPSGHBOOT partition from the drive.

7. Here is what you should now see on your T drive.

a. Original partition from when the drive still had hidden partitions
b. New partition of space we just recovered.
c. 8 meg unallocated partitions.

8. Do you want to place drive T back in a PC and run it as the primary HDD? Go to Disk Management and set the original partition on T (not the new one we just formatted) to and Active Partition. It should be bootable again if no data corruption has occurred.

Caution
Do not try to delete both partitions on the drive so you can create one large partition. This will not work. You have to leave the two partitions separate in order to use them. Windows disk management will have erroneous data in that it will say drive size = manus stated drive size and then available size will equal ALL the available space with recovered partitions included.

This process can cause a loss of data on the drive that is having its partitions recovered so it is best to make sure the HDD you use is not your current working HDD that has important data. If you do this on your everyday drive and not a new drive with just junk on it, you do so at your own risk. It has worked completely fine with no loss before and it has also lost the data on the drive before. Since the idea is to yield a huge storage drive, it should not matter.

Interesting results to date:
Western Digital 200GB SATA
Yield after recovery: 510GB of space

IBM Deskstar 80GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 150GB of space

Maxtor 40GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 80GB

Seagate 20GB EIDE
Yield after recovery: 30GB

Unknown laptop 80GB HDD
Yield: 120GB


http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14597
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 13th Mar 04, 02:47 AM
unicorn unicorn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: GMT+1
Posts: 851
unicorn is on a distinguished road
Sorry CAPS, but you are too slow:

http://betaone.net/index.php?showtopic=30756&hl=

I think it's better to keep everything in one thread??
__________________
unicorn
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 13th Mar 04, 04:50 AM
lickablepig lickablepig is offline
BetaONE Supporter
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: PST -08:00
Posts: 261
lickablepig is an unknown quantity at this point
Ouch, a day late & a hdd short... As Samantha on Bewitched would say, "welllllll"

I liked the read and i didn't have to click any links, hehe
j/k
lates, jiz

nice work uni, Caps King... :P
__________________
jizac_aka_lickablepig
(Y) (jizac)
(':') |/
("(")_)0


Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 13th Mar 04, 09:30 AM
TRYJAY's Avatar
TRYJAY TRYJAY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: IN FRONT OF 'PUTER
Posts: 187
TRYJAY is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to TRYJAY Send a message via AIM to TRYJAY Send a message via MSN to TRYJAY Send a message via Yahoo to TRYJAY
Well That Figures!!!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 13th Mar 04, 09:31 AM
TRYJAY's Avatar
TRYJAY TRYJAY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: IN FRONT OF 'PUTER
Posts: 187
TRYJAY is an unknown quantity at this point
Send a message via ICQ to TRYJAY Send a message via AIM to TRYJAY Send a message via MSN to TRYJAY Send a message via Yahoo to TRYJAY
What no takers??
I will admit, I"m CHICKEN!!!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:22 AM.


Design by Vjacheslav Trushkin for phpBBStyles.com.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.