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good point Dog; especially all that Symantec poopie, has been problematic for the last year or so..I stopped using Sygate, because the windows firewall, along with the hardware firewall in my USR router has made my pc invisible, and all ports are un-recognised..
if you need the NOD retail pkg, Dogg, let me know, It works perfectly with this release..
And, I keep loading more and more apps, and still the OS is trouble free..
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