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sigmazeta314 With all that you said, I agree totally and in my previous post I was not trying to take sides with the companies as it may have seemed, only post in my opinion their way of looking at the situtation...well it sure seems as that is the way they look at it.

Now I am almost going to show my age here........This thing of swapping music or "stealing" as some might say is NOT new stuff here. The only things NEW are the BIG company lawyers. You mean to tell me that when there were LP albums and people traded or loaned them to their friends 40+ years ago copies were not made of the music on the album? If copies were not made then what were the reel to reel tape recorders used for and what did they sell 8 track recorders for, so you could listen to speeches that you made for yourself? Also please don't forget that all sorts of companies sold cassette recorders for CHILDREN to play with and....you guessed it...record things. So when it gets down to real facts here who really is guilty or at fault. Now I have NOT said that stealing is right because it is not. I also remember when musicians did not make more money in comparison to others, there were no big busses or large corporations started to sort out all the dividends.

As you can see this is NOTHING new, it has just became another way for someone to b*tch, gripe and complain and then get themselves in the spotlight for awhile.....Oh yeah and make more money.

Changing subjects here will tell you what ever happened to ethical standards or the morals intertwined with producing a product that derives its value not only from the utility that the end user gets; but also from the satisfaction that the supplier derives from providing that product at a reasonable price.
Remember when Walmart got started the slogan was sorta like this "Made in America, by Americans, for Americans" ? Now I am NOT trying to get anyone here all up in the air, I am using that as an example of the way it was then, but go in the stores and look now. Morals and ethical standards will almost always get tossed for the right buck.

Thanks
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Don't forget these post are a result of HP's stand, as was stated in the first post.