Really now, Jack. If I were trying to pull the wool over your eyes, I like to think I could do a better job of it. I'd have steered you to some less objective links for starters. Thanks for your research too, it's always good to get the details and I'm not sorry to have the sensationalism stripped away from both of the incidents I mentioned. If you think there's nothing in the middle of the onion, fine. Maybe it's just the smell I don't like....
I'd say Darkwolven did a good job of arguing the one case. And I should point out that both stories were substantially true.
I will admit to having a prejudiced view of those I know to be deliberate liars. A lot of good people didn't believe that Nixon was a crook, but he was, you know. When I hear Bush talk about having secret evidence that he can't share with us I can't help but remember Nixon's secret plan to end the war in VietNam. Turned out the only plan he had was to get re-elected. IMO Bush is using the same old playbook and playing with lives in the same cavalier fashion, if for bigger stakes this time around.
I always regret getting sucked into a discussion like this. It's fun and all, but in the end you never prove anything or change anyone's mind. And of course it's pretty hard to avoid sounding like a pompous ass when you're talking about big things in such a small arena. The cruelest blow of all is -- now it seems you aren't going to respect me in the morning, you brute!
