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jonfr 13th Sep 02 04:08 AM

Title: Software Issues.

The Power of the Company

I did start copule of month ago thinking of what the software idustry where doing to the live of there users, then I most mean Microsoft Corp, since most users use Windows 98/2000/XP and if they where doing what they where saying. Like respecting there pricay of there users, sorry to say, this last days (This is written 30.06.2002) have bin dissapointing for me, since the new linceagrement allows Microsoft to go into your computer (Windows XP) and do what ever they like to it, and del, update and or lock your out of your own computer, whit out even telling you.

I think this is bad for the user, company that breaks its own police, tells me (for my point of view) that is not wort the bytes is telling us what it is doing. Now, as I was telling here above. Microsoft was in other word, changing the Windows Media player into one big spyware, and remote connect machine, and do what ever they whant to do whit it, even delting your own document, and what is bad, you can't sue them, the licence agreement make it so, that you can't sue microsoft in any way, since they have right to do this. Now, enugh of that part, what will they do whit all those info that they can collect, well for one thing, they are sure to become an "Big brother" and this is not the goverment, it is the privite company busness that is doing this.

The real danger is that, the goverment is going to kept sleeping by those companys, since someone has to pay to those election funds for those sentors in the USA, and for the president ect., and for my part, i'm sure that they can always "fix it" so it comes out good for them, execpt Microsoft, that seems to have no luck whit the goverment in resent month. I'm not saying that all companys are acting like "big brother", but i'm sure that we all know about few companys that are acting like that.

Now the are other type of companys out there acting like they own the world. Those compays act like all there users are dumb and don't know shit about the world and there computer for that matter. and they think that they can do anything whit there computer, becose the users is never going to figure it out. Realplayer is and real good example about one of those companys, i'm sure that are may others companys that act like that out there. Thinking that they are "big brother".

Copyright Power.

The power that the copyright gives companys to do anything that they whant is amzing I say, becose they seems to be able to get up whit anything in the name of the "Copyright" and "licence agreement", in fact, the power of licence agreements are so powerful that companys can even, get rid of all those responsybiltes if there software fucks up your computer. The Copyright and licence allows companys allows them, to remove the software if they don't like what you are doing whit it. I did also here rumors about that, Microsoft did include that in the licence for Microsoft Word (I don't know what version or even is that is true.), that you did not may write something bad about microsoft in Word, why? I guess that I will never know. Also is it worth to menshin that when you buy windows, what version it don?t matter, you are not buying anything but ear, since the licence agreement that Microsoft has done is in that way they are in reanting you the code of the software, so in fact you where not buying anything but ear, and making Microsoft richer. No wonder Microsoft don?t like linux, since there you do own the code, and you can get it for free.

jonfr 13th Sep 02 04:09 AM

Users right

So, the question that I'm going to bring up there, and that i'm seems to be unable to answer on my own, does the user to day have any right at all those days in the Closed Scoure enverment. Well, I don't know..what do you think ? For them it really dosen?t matter, since they own the code in it, all that the user owns is the hardware in the computer.

Subscripe to the Software!!

There is something new coming from Microsoft and it is called. Pay 1-2yrs to coningue to be able to use the software. This way, they can be sure of that they can always get some money from ppl..but are they? Well, if you like (or did) Windows, how simple and easy it is, you whant to use it and get new versions of it. But in all this, the Microsoft as start to rise prices, making it harder to normal ppl to buy it, becose it is so dem expenive. I'm sure not willing to pay those prices for there software. But there is an dangerus thing out there, that makes companys like microsoft harder to completle control the market (No, not apple inc.), it is called Open Scoure software, like linux and FreeBSD, OpenBeOs ect, OS that are free and you can get for free on the internet.

Locking out the piracy

Microsoft is (and other) are in fight whit piracy, music industry and movies and so on are trying to lock users out of that they can get mp3?s, movies and those stuff for free. The famus part of it is that when napster was shut down, then RIIA did won that battle, but as the war is going, it seems that the big brothers are loosing. They are trying alot of tactic those past few months, and most sicking of them are they are trying to making it LEGAL for them to hack the usrers computer if they think that they have copyright stuff on there computers. Now it seems to have gone to hole new level, now are they (whit sucsess it seems) to impliment an copyright guard into the hardware, cpu, motherboards ect...for the simple to purpse to protect there own software or mp3?s, movies and stuff. I whoud rater keep using my old hardware then buy that new shit, that is do to come out next year (if my info is correct), this copyright hardware is broght under that implimention they are protecting users computer form hackers and virues. I have one advies to Mircrosoft about that, they shoud really start to make better SOFTWARE then blaming hackers about what goes wrong in there buggy os. And keep those virus out of busness, well, unix system never gets any virus, I whonder why that is.

Big Brother

It seems to me that Microsoft (and others out there, just haven?t spotted them) are starting to play big brother, since new Microsoft new EULA just happen to allow them to take control of users computer. As for others that are trying to play big brother, they shoud think about stopping that shit before they go out of busness.

The power of Unix

Operating systems like Linux, FreeBSD and so on, are those days, getting more easy and alot more faster then Windows for x86 system (Apple has it own Unix), and Microsoft know this, and seems to do what ever they can to stop that users movie to Unix system. I?m sure that Unix system will take over whit time. And the reasion why that will happen, Unix is more flexabul then windows, and they are Standard, what ever type you are running, you can whit some effort, make software fom one type, work on other in unix system. You can?t do that in windows.

The End

Microsoft is really going to hate me after this post :D

Janth 16th Sep 02 09:19 PM

I agree :D



P.S. Spelling and Grammar Check.

zonko 16th Sep 02 09:38 PM

@ Janth

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P.S. Spelling and Grammar Check
We have members from the whole globe here. The fact that Jonfr posts in English and resides in a non-english speaking country is a pretty amazing accomplishment...right?

I do not agree on Jonfrs post however. MS certainly has their faults, but forcing users at gunpoint to use their products is not one of them.


Zo

craftyc 16th Sep 02 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by zonko@Today at 8:38 pm
I do not agree on Jonfrs post however. MS certainly has their faults, but forcing users at gunpoint to use their products is not one of them.
With Palladium and TCPA coming along that is exactly what will happen.

zonko 17th Sep 02 01:29 AM

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With Palladium and TCPA coming along that is exactly what will happen
Consumers always have voted with their pocketbooks. I expect that will still be the case IF and WHEN Palladium ever makes the market.

Zo

Crowdirt 17th Sep 02 03:03 AM

Hi Folks...it seems to me it's all a matter of "Degree". In other words, how far can you go with Marketing "Spin" before it becomes "Blatant Fraud".... :rolleyes: :P

skloo77 17th Sep 02 04:11 AM

well, lets settle for linux or lindows os.

at least they dun produce so much shit (or no shit) as ms. the copyright and license agreement really sucks.

bcos most of them companys are using these to push customers who are having troubles with their products away to die silently......
they would just say that it is all stated in the license agreement and that you have already agreed to it when you install it......all the bull shit and cock stuff...

but, we cannot deny the fact that almost half the world is using ms stuff.......it is sad....

jonfr 17th Sep 02 06:04 AM

it is closer to 97% of the world is using software from Microsoft, form my own point (this long post is my own point), is that I sometimes get that on my feeling that Microsoft is starting to do what ever they whant to do, and no one care, like WPA, it didn't stop piracy of windows XP or office XP, and now, well, Microsoft has an huge database whit Hardware ID's, they can say one thing, do other thing, I look at it that way. Also haven't you seen that those how make Computers (Dell, Hp or how ever does make computer) has to install windows on that computer, not linux, but it has to be windows, I guess in most part it is an part of an agreement between OEM's and Microsoft, but what about those how don't have this agreement, I think that they have to make windows come whit all those computer that they sell, even if the users whant to make use linux or FreeBSD or some other OS..

BearCat 17th Sep 02 09:22 AM

@ jonfr :
I see your point of view, and tend to agree with a lot of what your saying :)

FYI : Dell can ship systems without OS, or with Linux ( Red Hat ) preinstalled.
/http://www.dell.com/us/en/esg/topics/linux_000_products.htm


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