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Congress mulls prison terms for KaZaA users
By Thomas C Greene in Washington
Posted: 17/07/2003 at 12:40 GMT

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Not satisfied with hacking P2P networks, or destroying the computers of file sharers, House Hollywood sock puppet Howard Berman (Democrat, California) is now sponsoring legislation that would jail people who trade as little as one MP3 on the Internet.

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http://www.theregister.com/content/6/31800.html

Hmmm... so in the United States anyone caught caught with a single MP3 could conceivably do hard prison time, but Enron executives, who bilked their own employees out of billions of dollars in pension plans and savings, are enjoying the good life. Hah? :unsure:

AnneJay,

It only affects those who are sharing the files. But, for those who are downloading, nothing can be done. Besides, even if they do stop the people in the UNITED STATES from sharing, most of the servers that share the files are out of the country.

This really is the fall of the American Empire/Republic.

Don't get me wrong. I love both United States and Canada, Canada more ;) But this is just silly. I'll read the article tonight, and try to give a better response then a silly rant. :(

This is absolutely rediculous. The american justice system is so Fuc_ed up I almost wish I lived somewhere else sometimes. I just cannot believe some stupid pompous ass judge somewhere is giving the O.K. for this kind of thing.

For Americans money seems to be very very important, companys that charge 20$
for a CD are to greedy, and the artists and managers earn to much, ihave also heard that CD sales have gone up since internet and MP3s.

Another problem is the quality of the music has gone right down the sewer,and many of the old records you cant buy anyway.
So wake up RIAA.
JTK

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Originally posted by I_R_lectrishun@Jul 20 2003, 02:56 AM
This is absolutely rediculous. The american justice system is so Fuc_ed up I almost wish I lived somewhere else sometimes. I just cannot believe some stupid pompous ass judge somewhere is giving the O.K. for this kind of thing.

Man, I feel for you there. I think just the same, it's so damn rediculous what the US is turning into. I'm actually currently looking at moving out of the country...I'll be damned if I'm still here when things get worse. :(

Yea like Our Jails are Not Full Enough Already!!!!!!!!!

Let it lie for chr*sts sake let us do what we want

:D :D :D :D :D :D

wow so are we going to jail the Congress man that had over 1000 mp3s on his computer that he had downloaded from peer to peer?

we here in the US are more conserned with greed and the overall accumulation of money, ie power, that we would rather put online music sharers in jail that real criminals. That just shows you what out perogative is.

The record industry may or may not, in the near future have the same effect on peoples habits.

Unfortunately for the RIAA, the peer structure is learning alot from its members being hurt from the authorities. Engaging in pgp encruption, SSL, and anonymous proxy redirection.

Without the MPAA, and the RIAA, file swappers may not have been forced to create different and frankly better ways to transfer their toys.

Cyberion Posted on Jul 20 2003, 02:25 PM

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Without the MPAA, and the RIAA, file swappers may not have been forced to create different and frankly better ways to transfer their toys.

Good point. Sad to say some people are passing child porn and now with the RIAA's push it's only making it harder for police to find the really, really BAD people.

Congressman Berman is obviously getting some of the wealth the industry is spending on lobbyists. If they'd work on child porn or something with redeeming social benefits, I'd be happier.

Until the Japanese bought some of the US music archives you just couldn't get anything put out on old release LP's. But now the Japanese (Sony, for example) have put out vast numbers of reissues of LP's on CD. It's wonderful--but they are pricey.

Some kind of compromise will come out of all this. They don't have enough resources to capture the thousands of people like my 12 year old neighbor who has been downloading and burning mp3 CD's since he was 9. :)

dont believe for 1 sec this will happen.. if you do.. im sorry but you are really dumb.

bmw528ia97 Posted on Jul 20 2003, 02:43 PM

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dont believe for 1 sec this will happen.. if you do.. im sorry but you are really dumb.

Watch what you say. :blushing:

Music Industry Wins Approval of Subpoenas
Sat Jul 19, 6:16 PM ET

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By TED BRIDIS, AP Technology Writer

WASHINGTON - The music industry has issued at least 871 federal subpoenas against computer users this month suspected of illegally sharing music files on the Internet, with roughly 75 new subpoenas being approved each day, U.S. court officials said Friday.

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The effort represents early steps in the music industry's contentious plan to file civil lawsuits aimed at crippling online piracy.

Subpoenas reviewed by The Associated Press show the industry compelling some of the largest Internet providers, such as Verizon Communications Inc. and Comcast Cable Communications Inc., and some universities to provide names and mailing addresses for users on their networks known online by nicknames such as "fox3j," "soccerdog33," "clover77" or "indepunk74."

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=528&ncid=528&e=6&u=/ap/20030719/ap_on_en_mu/downloading_music_6

Or maybe this...

RIAA nails 1,000 music-lovers in 'new Prohibition' jihad
By Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco
Posted: 19/07/2003 at 11:26 GMT

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On Friday the lobby group that works on behalf of the large, mostly foreign-owned, music conglomerates that own the music copyrights and distribution channels confirmed that it was serving subpoenas at the rate of 75 a day on US citizens for the crime of sharing the music they love.

This signals a change of tactics for the RIAA: as now each individual file sharer is potentially responsible for thousands of dollars in damages. Once they were shielded by ISPs, but in the wake of the Verizon case, individuals are now exposed to direct intimidation. The RIAA is beside itself with glee: and boasted that a thousand music-lovers had already been busted

Not surprisingly, this has provoked a deep counter-reaction which is finally, and belatedly, taking to the streets. On August 1 and 2, Boycott-RIAA and affiliated groups will be holding anti-RIAA rallies across the country.

Well, here's your alarm call. While it may seem to be invincible, the RIAA is desperately vulnerable: and it knows it. It's under threat of anti-competitive lawsuits, its key DC placemen are under fierce scrutiny ... and the mass criminalization of innocent US citizens is a most coercive step citizens have seen since the Prohibition era.

SOURCE

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http://www.theregister.com/content/6/31833.html

watch what I say? ahmm, these are forums under a open discussion. If people are not permitted to say what they think, they why do we even bother posting? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "forum".

I am sorry.. but if you seriesly are dense enough to believe this will happen, you need to get a better grip on life. -That better king cobra?

What I ment was, look they are now getting subpoenas. I know they can't win if everyone continues but I have no doubt that they (RIAA) will follow through with some of their threats. They have to if they are really going to scare some people to stop. It's all they can do right now.

I'm sorry if I offended you in some way. :unsure:

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Originally posted by bmw528ia97@Jul 26 2003, 10:21 PM

I am sorry.. but if you seriesly are dense enough to believe this will happen, you need to get a better grip on life. -That better king cobra?

You misread KC's post. He was saying it IS happening and now. So maybe the rabbit hole is real after all? Watch the news. Check out TechTV's Tech live website. They have a complete list updated daily of the email addresses as pseudonyms for those people about to get served with a rude wake-up call. Call me dense, but I see what is going on. You apparently don't, but you can't say you weren't warned. :)