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Bads 7th Jun 03 10:31 PM

Hello,

I have succesfully create my floppies for installing windows 95 to an old laptop ;)

Now,

I insert the boot floppy, and all is working ok. When it's the time to choose my default installation, I have many choice: Laptop, recommanded etc..............If I choose any of these choice, the setup said " Cannot find the Install " :angry: :blink: This is my problem......What can I do for terminating the setup ???????

Thanks for your help............I have installed Ms-Dos 6.22 without any problem............

Alpine 8th Jun 03 12:46 AM

I know that i have send u that version of Win95 .. i ripped from the original Win95 Floppies disk !!

Maybe that my rip is corrupt .......... i can't test it on any PC ....

Oh .... god ..... i have a PC to repair monday .. i will try on it !

billybob3 8th Jun 03 01:11 AM

How old is the laptop? You might consider Windows 3.1, it runs faster on those REALLY old laptops...

Dave 8th Jun 03 01:20 AM

When you make your own floppy set you need to have the right files on each disk with the correct volume labels.

Disk 1 should be a normal 1.44 format with volume label "Disk1" (without the quote but note there is no space).
It should have these files on it:
Deltemp.com, Dossetup.bin, Extract.exe, Mini.cab, Precopy1.cab, Readme.txt, Save32.com, Scandisk.exe, Scanprog.exe, Setup.exe, Setup.txt, Smartdrv.exe, Wb16off.exe, Winsetup.bin, Xmsmmgr.exe

The rest of the disks all have a DMF 1.66 format (Cluster 2048)
Disk 2 has volume label "Disk2" and contains:
Precopy2.cab, Win95_02.cab

From there on you put one cab file on each floppy with the volume name matching the cab number:
Disk3 = Win95_.03.cab
Disk4 = Win95_.04.cab
(Continue like that till the end).

Best of luck,
Dave


Edit- On second thought..
If the set you made isn't like it should be, rather than starting over it would be a lot easier to just copy the contents of the floppies into a folder through DOS and run the setup from the hard drive.

billybob3 8th Jun 03 06:11 AM

OHHH, fast thinking Dave! :kicking: :D :) ;)

Bads 8th Jun 03 10:52 PM

@ Alpine,

yes this is your floppies

@ billybob3

This is a Compaq 3/25

I already have windows 3.11 but I want to make a test ;)

@ Dave,

Thanks for these informations ;) I have only to copy all the floppies to a new directory and launch the setup ????

Dave 9th Jun 03 05:39 AM

Yes, you can just copy all the floppies to a folder and run the setup from there.

If you didn't have DOS installed you would need to boot with a windows 98 boot disk cause it would create a temporary RAM drive with the basic dos commands letting you remove the floppy disk.

Boot to DOS and make a folder on the C drive.
C: <enter>
MD Cabs <enter>

Then copy all the floppies to the folder:
copy A:\ C:\Cabs <enter>

When your ready for the next disk, just hold down the right arrow key to automatically retype the line and hit <enter>

Then just enter the folder and run setup:
CD cabs <enter>
Setup <enter>

Dave

Bads 9th Jun 03 06:07 AM

Thanks Dave,

I will try your method tomorrow morning ;) ;) And post my comments after :lol:

Thanks again

Bads 9th Jun 03 09:32 PM

If I type CD cabs, I receive the message "Invalid directory" :angry: :blink:

If I type C:\dir I see the Cabs directory :(

Cactus 9th Jun 03 10:11 PM

Try "Dir c:\ /x", there might be some longfile-name problem. It helped me a few times!

Or do you see file named CABS?

Dave 9th Jun 03 10:24 PM

Make sure your at the "C:\>" prompt before changing directories into the cab folder.

C: <enter>
(You should now be at the C prompt)
CD Cabs <enter>
setup <enter>

Cactus 9th Jun 03 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dave@Jun 9 2003, 11:24 PM
CD Cabs <enter>

Better yet,

CD\Cabs <enter>

This will make sure you change to the root folder called cabs.

Bads 9th Jun 03 10:47 PM

Ok,

My folder is "C:\windows\cabs"

Bads 10th Jun 03 01:28 AM

I'm trying to make my floppies with Winimage.

But when I want to copy them to my "C" drive, the system copy only 65 024 b and not 1 216 724 bytes :(

I receive this message : Sector not found reading drive A

Why ?

Thanks

mikeh420 10th Jun 03 01:38 AM

Sector not found, might mean a corrupted or damaged diskette. Try and do a full format (not a quick format) and see if it finds bad sectors. Also sometimes system install diskettes are formatted in other than 1.44MB (FAT12) format, like some MS products.

Bads 10th Jun 03 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mikeh420@Jun 9 2003, 07:38 PM
Sector not found, might mean a corrupted or damaged diskette. Try and do a full format (not a quick format) and see if it finds bad sectors. Also sometimes system install diskettes are formatted in other than 1.44MB (FAT12) format, like some MS products.
These floppies are new ;)

And I have to convert them to 1.6 meg 2048 sector I think :blink:

I format them using WinImage and write them but I always receive the same message :(

doder 10th Jun 03 04:16 AM

i uploaded a copy win95 osr2 to someone{?}. it included a copy of "Maxidisk" that will allow you to increase the size of the floppies so all the files fit. i can upload Maxidisk if you want it. :)

Dave 10th Jun 03 04:34 AM

Make sure your using the very last choice in WinImage under "non-standard format"
DMF (cluster 2048)

It ends up as either 1.66 or 1.68 but don't use the third selection that says 1.68 cause I'm pretty sure it's different.
It's the DMF format thats readable in DOS and thats exactlly what MS used to distribute the floppy disk sets.

Try one like that and see if you can get it to copy onto your laptop.

You also don't need to make the whole set, reformating all the disks is a waste of time, you only really need 2 or 3 disks.
Put the laptop next to your desktop system and as your copying one disk to the laptop you can be getting the next ready on your desktop by deleting the old file and copying the next cab onto it. (You don't need to reformat each time, just delete the old file).
Dave

Bads 10th Jun 03 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by doder@Jun 9 2003, 10:16 PM
i uploaded a copy win95 osr2 to someone{?}. it included a copy of "Maxidisk" that will allow you to increase the size of the floppies so all the files fit. i can upload Maxidisk if you want it. :)
I have download it from you doder ;)

But I can't make it working :(

I have the good file on the floppy ;) But I always receive this message when trying to copy the file :Sector not found reading drive A

Dave 10th Jun 03 06:06 AM

Thats strange, I just tried it myself to doublecheck and it worked fine.
Here is what I did, I used the _03.cab file because it's the first full size file.

I put in a floppy and opened WinImage and went to:
Disk\format disk
and choose "DMF 2048" (the last option).
After the disk formatted and verified I copied the Win95_03.cab file to it.
Then I booted up with a windows 98 boot disk and at the A prompt I removed the boot disk and put in the floppy I just made.
Then I did this: (pushing enter after each line)
C:
md cabs
copy A:\ C:\cabs
(The file proceeded to copy, when it was done I entered the folder to check).
cd cabs
dir

I could see the file there and I didn't recieve any errors, when I booted back to windows I double checked and the folder and file was there and it was the right size.

Hmmmm, let me think about this for a while.
Dave

Sephiroth 11th Jun 03 03:42 AM

hmmmm, strange, are you 110% sure that disk is good? can you try that file on another disk, or another file on that disk and see if you get the same thing? it really sounds like a bad disk to me, new or not

no matter what file system is on the disk, dos should be able to read it fine as long as the media is good, have you tried surface scanning the disk with scandisk from dos?


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