Okay so here's the thing:

Recently acquired a Pioneer 16x DVD drive; installed it making it a slave to the burner. Then fired up the box and the BIOS said there was no drive - zero, nada! no hard drives, no CD drives. So checked to make sure the jumper was in the correct position to run as a slave - it was

Then tried running the drive by itself and set it as a master. Still said there was no drives.

Yes the power was hooked up correctly, the light went on.

Took back to the place I bought it and they tested it and it worked... so what could the problem be? Any ideas? :(


Athlon 1.2 ghz
512 RAM

You mean it works now?

@richardc2000
Yeah, it works but not in my machine.. go figure. Maybe I'll see you on Valentines Day. ;)

Hrmm, thats a weird one. I would just double check the jumper settings as you did before, and then maybe make sure in your bios that the channels are selected to autodetect devices. If those dont work, I am out of ideas.

Had the same problem and this was the trick that worked for me
Make sure to backup this registry settings first !!!

Remove the Upperfilters and Lowerfilters values completely from the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}

Click Start, Run and enter REGEDIT Go to the branch indicated above, locate the Upperfilters and Lowerfilters values. Right click each and select Delete.


greypigeon

How does editing the registry settings in windows help in detecting the drives in BIOS. If the drives are not detected in BIOS itself, how will they be recognized in windows?

I would suggest getting a new IDE cable and setting the jumper on the DVD drive to Cable Select and then connect it to the IDE controller. Maybe then BIOS will detect the DVD drive.

Before doing this I do have a couple of questions. Were any other devices hooked up to this particular IDE channel before you tried connecting this DVD drive? Were those devices being recognized by BIOS. I would also suggest to try and connect another device on this particular IDE channel. If that one is not recognized either, I am pretty much sure that your IDE controller (primary or secondary) has gone bust!!

Secondly, which IDE channel are you trying to connect this device to? Do you have an onboard RAID controller on your motherboard?

"How does editing the registry settings in windows help in detecting the drives in BIOS. If the drives are not detected in BIOS itself, how will they be recognized in windows?"

All I know is, when XP first came out, a LOT of people lost thier CDR burners. Removing the 'upper/lower' filters worked 90% of the time.

}---:?

I know that problem and people lost their burners in windows, however the drives were still being recognized in BIOS.

@Big POPPA Pump
Thanks. Yes the burner was hooked up to this channel, and yes before hooking up the DVD drive the burner and a CD ROM lived on this channel w/o any problem (the BIOS recognized them). The burner is running by itself at the moment and is fine.

No onboard RAID controller on the motherboard.

Will try a new IDE cable and see what happens on cable select.

@ tubebuoy & greypigeon - thank you for your suggestions, will look into the registry.

@ Shiromagius - thanks, will double check the BIOS.

Anne :)

if you have a Cd burner and not a dvd burner then the DVDrom should be the secondary master not the slave,and the cd burner becomews the slave.


zugzwang.......

make sure the master drive has a jumper set correctly.

i know one of my drives has a setting for Master ..and Master w/ slave.....and if it was wrong.....it would be all funky.

i'd agree with jessica, check the jumpers again

if you're using the same ide cable for the dvd that you've used on other drives, and it works on other drives, the ide cable is fine, and if other drives work on the ide controller, the controller is fine too

those two reg keys wouldn't affect this prob, b/c if it's not being picked up in the bios, it's not going to be seen by windows at all

i have had this prob with an hdd before too, i'd plug it up, tried slave and cable select, neither would work, and it turned out the jumper on the master hdd was set wrong, once i set that right everything was fine

um, as a last resort try, plug a different power connector into it, it's worth a shot, sometimes one of my hdd's will go funky and if i plug another power cable into it it works fine, /me thinks i need a new psu

Removed!

Well it appears it was indeed the IDE cable, there wasn't anything wrong with the particular cable being used - it was just the wrong kind.

Took the machine to a technician the other day (thanks rc :rolleyes: ) and he used an ide cable with, what looked to be, at least twice as many wires as the standard looking stuff. Wasn't aware such a thing existed - learn something new everyday.

Thanks to all who replied and hope this little tidbit helps someone out in the future. :D

Hi

From what you said in your initial post and now in your most recent response, it sounds to me that you may have had a SCSI DVD drive connected which, indeed, does require a different IDE cable with 50, 68 pins etc ...... that's why I asked you what model your Pioneer DVD drive was.

Anyway, glad you got it sorted.

@Brave01Heart

It's definately an IDE drive, just like the burner it's a slave to. It's called a Pioneer DVD-117. Was told on another board it's "better known as ata100 ide cable". Hope this info helps.

Anne

This cable you was seeing, is a "standard" double density IDE cable,
with 80 wires, instead of 40. The extra wires are for grounding, and it
is a _must_ for running UDMA60 or higher speeds.

Your DVD supports UDMA607ATAPI-5 speeds.
It's _normally_ not needed for running CD/DVD drives, but your bios might
have been confused, if it was set to DMA4/5 or auto, and your cable was not supporting it.

( Some cables for 133 even comes with a shield, that is to be grounded )

Ive had problems using my new dvd-rw in tandem with my cd burner also for some reason