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Raid762 26th Dec 01 10:36 AM

Hi, I am considering putting together a new system for my son,
all things being equel which would be better , a 1000mhz celeron or 1000mhz duron , Unfortunately I cant go all out and get top of the range stuff.

unicorn 26th Dec 01 01:38 PM

I donīt really know about the differences in speed and such between thoose processors. What that might be of greater interest is what motherboard you buy. I believe you can put a decent machine together on a budget, but the most important part is still the mobo. Maybe you have a few alternatives at your local store or something? Check them out carefully, f eks at hxxp://www.reviewbooth.com as Iīm sure your son deserves a stable machine.

For what it is worth,

.unicorn

felixml 26th Dec 01 04:11 PM

Please read these two articles.
I hope it helps!

When it's easy to find a great holiday deal on a PC with a high-end processor, why would anybody settle for one with an entry-level chip?

That's the problem facing chip makers Intel and AMD, which have watched their carefully planned market segmentation blow up, thanks to a faltering economy and a massive downturn in technology spending. Just a few years ago, entry-level chips were aimed at sub-$1200 PCs; now you can find a system using Intel's premiere Pentium 4 chip at a lower price than some using its entry-level Celeron processor.

As Intel has rapidly dropped prices on the P4 to compete with AMD in a tough market, the company watched its less expensive Celeron lose market share. The Celeron dropped from 27.2 percent in the third quarter of last year to 20.9 percent of the market in the same quarter of this year, according to research firm Dataquest.

In that same period, Intel introduced the Pentium 4, and that chip went from a zero market share to 23.9 percent.

When it's easy to find a great holiday deal on a PC with a high-end processor, why would anybody settle for one with an entry-level chip?

That's the problem facing chip makers Intel and AMD, which have watched their carefully planned market segmentation blow up, thanks to a faltering economy and a massive downturn in technology spending. Just a few years ago, entry-level chips were aimed at sub-$1200 PCs; now you can find a system using Intel's premiere Pentium 4 chip at a lower price than some using its entry-level Celeron processor.

As Intel has rapidly dropped prices on the P4 to compete with AMD in a tough market, the company watched its less expensive Celeron lose market share. The Celeron dropped from 27.2 percent in the third quarter of last year to 20.9 percent of the market in the same quarter of this year, according to research firm Dataquest.

In that same period, Intel introduced the Pentium 4, and that chip went from a zero market share to 23.9 percent.

When it's easy to find a great holiday deal on a PC with a high-end processor, why would anybody settle for one with an entry-level chip?

That's the problem facing chip makers Intel and AMD, which have watched their carefully planned market segmentation blow up, thanks to a faltering economy and a massive downturn in technology spending. Just a few years ago, entry-level chips were aimed at sub-$1200 PCs; now you can find a system using Intel's premiere Pentium 4 chip at a lower price than some using its entry-level Celeron processor.

As Intel has rapidly dropped prices on the P4 to compete with AMD in a tough market, the company watched its less expensive Celeron lose market share. The Celeron dropped from 27.2 percent in the third quarter of last year to 20.9 percent of the market in the same quarter of this year, according to research firm Dataquest.

In that same period, Intel introduced the Pentium 4, and that chip went from a zero market share to 23.9 percent.


Dropping P4 Prices Crush Celeron Demand


http://xxx.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,77264,00.asp

nnuxx 26th Dec 01 05:32 PM

i would go definitely for d Duron.
Celeron was always from it's beginning a 'bad produced' processor that intel chosed to bring as a 'low cost' alternative (it's basically a normal Intel with it's cache memory 'hammered' to half size from a regular Pentium).
Latest reviews as showned AMD processors getting similar (n even better) performances then Pentium with same clock speeds.
i would go to d Duron :)

Forgotten 26th Dec 01 05:53 PM

DURON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

definatly go for the Duron.

Even though the Celeron is based off of the P3 architecture.
Go with the duron, it is Heads and Shoulders above the celeron

The only celeron i would ever [i:4514d3e2f4]consider[/i:4514d3e2f4] getting is th 1.2 Tulan

check out this article on it
http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011116/index.html
it even shows the Duron beating the P4!!!!!!!!

Duron is cheaper faster and overclocks better :)

greasemonkey 26th Dec 01 05:53 PM

heres an article on the latest 1200 duron/celeron I'm sure you can draw some parallels to the 1000. *http://www6.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q4/011116/index.html by the same token for only $60 (Canadian anyway) you could upgrade to a 1.3G athlon.

*ha ha, forgotten beat me to the punch on that article.

Raid762 28th Dec 01 11:01 AM

Thanks for the advive , I have had a look at the articles and think It will be the duron.

felixml 3rd Jan 02 02:27 PM

h..p://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020103/index.html



Intel vs. AMD: Celeron 1300 vs. Duron 1200



GREAT WRITE-UP!!!

Raid762 3rd Jan 02 02:57 PM

hi Felixml , I have read that article , sounds pretty impressive .
I havent seen the duron 1200 advertised anywhere down here yet though. What a pity we cant get them for the prices they go for in the States.

felixml 3rd Jan 02 07:45 PM

Why don't you go to something like ibuyer.net and order from them.
They are providing great prices from all major distributors.
I am sure they will send to Aussies too...

razor 3rd Jan 02 08:48 PM

You might want to consider an above average motherboard. Some older motherboards don't have a built in a switch to turn the computer off if the cpu is overheating. The newer motherboards address this "little" problem. I believe ASUS and ABIT have come out with new boards that support this.

RaZoR:)

greasemonkey 3rd Jan 02 08:52 PM

**edit*** opps guess I should have read all reply's, I see this was already posted sorry guys

toms hardware has another reivew - this time with the [b:4728b3a617]1300[/b:4728b3a617] Celeron vs [b:4728b3a617]1200[/b:4728b3a617] Duron. The new Celeron is based on the new P3 Tualatin core but still runs a 100Mhz FSB, so guess what.... the Duron still beats it on nearly all benchmarks!

article here-> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020103/index.html

felixml 4th Jan 02 04:43 AM

h..p://www.techhard.com/docs/pro/cel130/cel130_1.htm


ONE MORE...

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?i...&category=main

Just before the launch of Pentium 4 2.0A and 2.2A the Intel is also ready to rock away the the value processor lineup where it`s facing a tough competition with the rival AMD`s value chip Duron 1.2 Ghz. But this time Intel is challenging the Duron with 100 MHz more pumped up to existing 1200 MHz i.e. launching Celeron 1.3Ghz (1300 MHz). This chip is again based on Tualatin core(0.13 micron) like the previous 1.2 Ghz one.

greasemonkey 4th Jan 02 06:32 AM

It would be far more interesting if Intel would bump the Celeron up to a 133Mhz bus. That 100 bus just chokes the life out of what could be a good processor.

SmallzTek 11th Jan 02 06:05 AM

The Duron would be the best thing to get. It out performs the celeron in most if not all the tests. I think the main reason would be the memory that they are using. The Duron are capable of using DDR while the Celeron are only able to use PC-100 or PC-133 because of Intel's lack of DDR support.


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