Hi,

I recently decided to convert my sons and daughters XP Fat32 to NTFS, seemed to run fine but came to a hurdle today.

You see, their PC's have only one hard-drive (normal you'd say), and I divide them into 2 partitions:

C: 75% - XP
D: 25% - Data

This way they can store their video clips, .mp3's, .doc's etc. to D:Data and XP gets installed to C:

When I do a fresh install, I only need to format on C: then install.

Booting from A:Floppy, Win9x/Win_Me obviously can't recognise/see NTFS partitions so therefore you can't format. I was too lazy to search the web for a solution, so I nutted the partitions and started again.

I doubt whether I'll ever use NTFS again.

(Yes, I do have WinInternals NTFS Pro but couldn't be bothered)

Cheerz

:) :D ;)

Sounds logical to me, daMANwithANSWERZ...

I have 12 systems running on our little home network; 6 using XP, the other 6 using a much modified version of Win98SE. If I use NTFS, then the 98 systems can't communicate with the XP boxes. Net result is that I have everything using FAT32. On the 3rd (or 4th) install of XP I installed using NTFS andduring testing, could see no "seat of the pants" difference. I know NTFS is supposed to be a bit more secure, but with all the holes they keep finding in XP, the file system is the least of the security problems.

Until there is a more secure (MUCH MORE SECURE!!) version of XP, I plan on sticking to FAT32.

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daMANwithTWOanswerz("yes","no")

you can format them whenever you install xp. just do it when you get the option on the cd and choose whether you want fat32 or ntfs.

[quote:83c54afa7e][i:83c54afa7e]Originally posted by .unicorn [/i:83c54afa7e]
[b:83c54afa7e]Your post isn't that clear to me. Were there any problems with their XPs? Are you trying to format back to FAT again (and why soo?)?

Anyways the XP installation program can handle a ntfs-partition - there should be no problem. Partition Magic can handle this too, and a lot of os-setup-programs can delete the partition if you don't wan't to keep it.

Maybe you really not want any replys - it seems to me as a post made just to cool off a bit?

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TheManWithEvenMoreQuestions [/quote:83c54afa7e]
Hi guyz,

Hey, I don't think I asked [b][i:83c54afa7e]1 question in my original post[/i:83c54afa7e][/b:83c54afa7e], I was making a statement about my NTFS XPeriences :) :D :p :p :p

I was in a hurry b4, sorryz :p , my posts are normally clearer :D .

On this occasion, my son was running XP Home OEM, it is a genuine purchased version, [b:83c54afa7e]no problems[/b:83c54afa7e] and all the PC's were running Home, went from Home to Corp on daughters PC's and liked it again [b:83c54afa7e]much betta than Home[/b:83c54afa7e].

I wanted to get all of my LAN PC's back to running XP Corp, I do think it's much better than HOME.

All I wanted to do is:

1. Boot from A:Floppy containing either Win98 or Win_Me
2. Give the command [b:83c54afa7e]format C:[/b:83c54afa7e]
3. Boot from CD
4. Install XP Corp clean
5. [b:83c54afa7e]I always use my own UNATTEND[/b:83c54afa7e] CD's to complete the process, it configures XP CD Key, PC/LAN names, Time-Zones, printers, it's nice, quick and VERY, VERY EASY and getting it to format will just complicate the installation.
6. Each XP Corp Unattend CD for each PC has it's own unique CD Key, I don't have to enter because it does automatically during install

Like I said, I was making a statement regarding XPeriences, that was all.

Cheerz :) :D ;)

Again the XP installation could format C: for you.
About NFTS, I use it only in C: drive for XP, and other drives have FAT32.

[quote:f7a7271fd1][i:f7a7271fd1]Originally posted by Woogieman [/i:f7a7271fd1]
[b]Sounds logical to me, daMANwithANSWERZ...

Until there is a more secure (MUCH MORE SECURE!!) version of XP, I plan on sticking to FAT32.
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I have two installs of Win2000 Pro running NTFS5; I copy (uh, I mean *backup*, yeah, that's it!) DVDs to my hard drive and then convert them to AVI and burn to CD. NTFS is the only FAT that will allow one big 20GB AVI file...(Easier to edit/compress if it's all in one synch'd file)...;)

Otherwise, I agree: FAT32 is the one.

Two weeks ago,

I just format my C partition (NTFS) using the Devilsown CD and reinstall in my C partition..........

No problem found

FrogBait4:

You're dead on!! I have one system that has an ATI "All in Wonder" Radeon 7500 video card that I use to record off the TV cable, DVD's, VHS tapes, etc. It looks like I'll be installing XP on that system because of the 4 gig (4.2 gig) max file size under FAT32. When using high resolution video captures on an average movie, storage requirements start at 3.8 gigs and go up from there. I understand there are software "gimmicks" that will extend FAT32 out to 16 gigs, or so, but they sound flaky to me. Don't want to cobble a drive just for some wierd "solution".

VCD, on the other hand, usually will be in the 600,000KB to 700,000KB range normally for a movie/program/etc. Works great with a 700 meg CD-R and FAT32. I plan on installing a DVD burner shortly and will move to higher resolution captures at that time. Meaning that system will need to have XP with NTFS to handle the much larger files sizes.....

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daMANwithTHREEanswerz("yes","no", and "HUH")

Woogieman: Time to say HUH!

"If I use NTFS, then the 98 systems can't communicate with the XP boxes."

Hard to believe this. Here at my jolygolly place this is a problem never heard of. I guess you had some bad config in your LAN. (If xp can read the partition xp can also f eks send a file from it thruu the NIC... regardless cdfs, fat12/16/32 or ntfs)

Security - this is a matter of where your system is I guess, physically. At home it does't matter, in most cases.

Technically - All advantages at ntfs.

daMANwithANSWERZ: No, right, you didn´t ask. I did the asking...:) And now it is clear to me too. Again.

Cheers all !

Just an FYI for the guy who can't get his Win XP boxes to "see" the Win 98 boxes, I'd double check the network. I have a small home lan, and the 98 box can definitely see the XP boxes which are NTFS. In fact, I keep all my uilities on the XP box, and I can go to the 98 box, access the drives with NTFS, and transfer files to the 98 box.

i have 2 xp pro boxes and one 98 and i can fil share no problem you just have to uncheak dhcp on the 98 boxes

I run several servers at work (NT and 2k) and I always format the drives with the NTFS file systems. The increased security, smaller cluster size and large file allowances are extremely necessary on servers. With that said, I have Win95, Win98, and even DOS using DOS client accessing all files and folders on the servers.
I suggest you make sure that all your computers are in the same workgroup, on the same subnet, and the folders are shared with the correct permissions.
I hope that helps.

Arnie

if u got the bootable CD of Windows XP, you got no worries :rolleyes:

Hi Folks, I have been using NTFS for about 7 years now. It is definitely the way to go....NTFS is not a "New" file system structure, it has been used on Unix Computers for many years. You will find it to be basically the same on Linux systems as well. The file system takes a bit of "Learning" to get over some of the bumps, but well worth the effort... B) :D

On advantage using FAT32 is
if you decided to tried Linux..

Mandrake will install on FAT32 which is a bonus :-)

yes .. I use ntfs .. and love it..

If you have a P3 system it most likly can be cause by your bios which doesn't supporth NTFS format.

Protecteur :D

@woogie
HUH? HUH? HUH?
...win98 computers using f32 CAN communicate with XP boxes running NTFS. Its in your network configuration that you have the problem. They communicate using TCP/IP, which has nothing to do with the file system type.

@protecteur
Not really sure what you are trying to say, but the BIOS or PROCESSOR type has little to do with what file system you can or cant use.

Zo

Lol, I thought this was cleared up in Mars...
I don't think it's woogieman that brings the topic back...

Then I also wonder about "NTFS is not a "New" file system structure, it has been used on Unix Computers for many years." written by Crowdirt. What? What Unix-OS is it that has run NTFS for years?

Unix don't use NTFS, they use EXT3 (linux) and other filessystems...

hmm, for once Crowdirt is wrong, hehe, it depends on what OS I'm installing as to what filesystem I use, if I'm using a server OS (ie, right now I have RC1 of .NET setup as a domain controller) than I'll use NTFS, otherwise, if it's xp home / pro or Win2K Pro then I'll go with FAT32, many less headaches, but NTFS is needed for security and active directory