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Binninn 31st Aug 02 06:31 PM

Hello jo all
Just downloaded the SP1 and installed it and no prob

thanks for the link

Off topic....Now we have to change the name off this topic from
Windows XP SP1 Beta to Windows XP SP1.........

LOL

TheCrossMovement 31st Aug 02 06:37 PM

Yeah, IF this is for real, than yeah we do.

Sephiroth 31st Aug 02 06:39 PM

I'm fairly sure that it is, I just slipstreamed and reinstalled and it works great

Grzyb 31st Aug 02 07:24 PM

No problems here also.....

Activated Win XP Home with B*** Key

Updated the previous Beta Installations without a hitch & still Activated.....

Looks like a pucker release.....Has SP 1 stamped all over the place NOT beta.....



EDIT

Just been to the Windows Update Site & it states that I need 1 Critical & 1 Windows Update......?????

Thought SP1 contained all the Patches & Fixes...????



Last edited by Grzyb at Today at 6:51 pm

Woogieman 31st Aug 02 09:59 PM

Grzyb:
What is the size of the 1106 file download you received?

devilotx 31st Aug 02 10:14 PM

Sp1 has all the updates to a point, there has to be a cut off point where MS says all updates to this point.

but it does work well doesnt it

HamsterX 31st Aug 02 11:46 PM

@Woogie and all interested ones:

Mine is 140.440.152 bytes, files dated 29-08-2002 inside.

I built a slipstreamed CD from XP Corp, and I'm testing now inside a virtual machine.......

EDIT: Weird... the new EULA is somewhere inside the 135 MB SP1 patch file, but the slipstreamed CD setup still displays the old one... Looks like the new EULA displays only when updating to SP1, not with clean installs from slipstreamed CD :huh: :blink:

EDIT II: Installation went fine. Windows Update works (for now ?) and tells me about 3 updates: .NET framework, Movie Maker and euro conversion tool. Nothing more.



Last edited by HamsterX at Today at 2:31 am

Dudelive 1st Sep 02 03:48 AM

@ HamsterX I just did the update with Sp1 as an update not slipstreamed and all also went very good. I went to the update site and all is good, even the same updates as you found. I did not do a clean install yet, but it seems slightly faster than before.



EDIT:

I just changed the clock ahead 12 months and rebooted, still says sp1, but when i go to the update site there are NO updates, not even the 3 that were just there. So i changed the clock back and rechecked the update site and viola they are back..

I did a search on the hard drive for "eula" and found it to say 180 day right at the top. So I guess the best thing to do is fix it before the 180 days have passed






Last edited by Dudelive at Today at 10:10 pm

Dudelive 1st Sep 02 04:04 AM

Double posted by accident
Sorry



Last edited by Dudelive at Today at 10:11 pm

HamsterX 1st Sep 02 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dudelive@Today at 3:48 am
I did a search on the hard drive for "eula" and found it to say 180 day right at the top. So I guess the best thing to do is fix it before the 180 days have passed
@ Dudelive

Where did that 180-day EULA come from ? SP1 or XP itself ? :blink:

Back one year ago I remember having read about an 180-day evaluation version of Windows XP which could be converted to full version by repalcing 4 files inside the I386 folder. The EULA was one of these files, but it had no practical effect in the usability of the OS, since its purpose was to warn about the limit... nothing more.

Maybe this EULA file was forgotten ?... ;)

Dudelive 2nd Sep 02 12:03 PM

I did a search and found it in " system32" and "i386" and "help" ......there were some more places but they were from real betas on another drive. After lots of thought I said what the hell and did a complete CLEAN reinstall and all seems ok as of now.

As to your question, it had to come from a Sp beta cause I have not used any betas before these "Xp" betas and I have read "that" file on here before and it was NOT 180 day limit. After reinstall it`s not now either.....All probably would have been fine but this has been running trouble free for awhile and really did need a fresh install.....LOL



Last edited by Dudelive at Today at 6:06 am

Brave01Heart 2nd Sep 02 12:26 PM

Hi

With reference to the SP1 file size; I believe size of SP1 is 133MB (140.440.152 bytes) and not 135MB.

With reference to the "New" EULA; what's the difference between that and the "original" EULA? I.e. Where does it differ in the text?

UPDATE: I have just seen an SP1 1106 FINAL which is 135MB. What is the correct size? 133MB or 135MB?

And is there going to be a "standard" SP1 for XP and another for the MSDN/Corporate XP version? Maybe that's the difference in the sizes and maybe one of those files is not all it should be and that's why some users have the 180 EULA and some don't?

Can anyone throw any light on this?

I guess, to be sure, we might as well wait and download it from Microsoft on 9th September

Regards



Last edited by Brave01Heart at Today at 11:52 am

Woogieman 2nd Sep 02 03:29 PM

HamsterX, Brave01Heart, others:

My download is:
RAR format - 138,720 KB
EXE file - 137,149 KB
Properties Window:
140,440,152 bytes
1.16.121.0 Version Number

Reason for the question is that I saw a couple comments (other sites) that M$ had quietly substituted a newer "patched" final correcting some minor problems.

HamsterX 2nd Sep 02 07:32 PM

@Brave

140.440.152 bytes: I agree, this is what I had seen around in the servers, irc...

133 MB/ 135 MB / xxx MB : Caution when comparing file sizes. Different server OSes may report different byte sizes for the same file in certain conditions, sometimes depending on the way the FTP connection is done. Hence the confusion. Or maybe there are forgotten SP1 betas still around...

"New" EULA grants Microsoft right to silently "update" your OS. "Snooper" License. Started being applied with Win2k SP3, I think. This "new" EULA displays when updating, but not when setting up from slipstreamed CD.

Different SP1 "flavours": I don't think so... I'm using the one with 140.440.152 bytes with MSDN=Vol=Corp XP, and I have read posts about sucessfull SP1 installs/updates/slipstreams with both Retail/OEM Home/Pro XP. And Win2k never had different SPx files for Pro/Server/ Adv. Server versions.
That 180-day EULA must be trash remaining from the betas, nothing more.

Waiting for 9th Sept. : I agree, we never known what M$ readies... :P

Hope this helps.


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