How Ignorant Is Kanye West?
 

Last Friday NBC held a 'telethon' for victims of Katrina. (c)Rapper Kanye West once again displayed what a bunch of ignorant bastards these "Rap Artists" are.

"West: George Bush doesn't care about black people!"

I would like to point out that in general, Republicans are more educated and therefore earn more money and are able to donate more than your average Democrat. I'd also like to point out that America is pretty much split down the middle as far as Republican/Democrat demographics are concerned.

If I had a chance to go "nation wide" begging for money, I wouldn't pee off 1/2 the country. Would you?

Does Kanye really care about "his people" or did he use this occasion to enhace his "street cred" ?

I see now other (c)rappers are coming to his defense.

It should be obvious the (c)rappers dont' care about raising money to help thier "Bruthas and Sistas" as much as increasing the sales of thier next album (Kanye's new album comes out soon).

No?


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Well, if he cares so much about his "bruthhas", why doesn't he donate some of the millions he has earned selling his records?

Plus, I am so fricken sick of listening to some of his cohorts complaining that if this happened in a "white" metro area, the government response would have been much swifter and widespread...

Where is the big time relief effort of the black artists and his fellow rappers?
Why aren't they donating a major part of their incredible wealth to help "their own"??
These loud mouth, negative, hate spewing morons don't deserve the media time that our wonderfull press seems anxious to give them..

Here in Illinois, we have welcomed thousands of refugees from the area with open arms and food, shelter, and love..and most of the areas that have been the most genrous and loving are the "pure white" suburbs, loaded with the "white people" that morons like Kanye
West complain did nothing to help out the poor folks in the Gulf states...

Sorry about the rant, I am just so sick of people like him plaing the "race card" any time they can, just to get publicity..

I repeat, how much $$$ is HE and his "Gangsta" buddies donating to help the cause?????

For those of you that missed it, here is the video clip. Note the total lack of even REMOTE intelligence.

http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Kay...ack-People.wmv

Well, Dope Head, or whatever your real name is, the last time I checked, the United States allows freedom of thought and expression, and anyone can feel any way they want to about any subject...And, I never realized you were omniscient, and were able to tell me what I think and how I feel..

I am neither Christian or Republican, so there goes your lame theory..

Funny how the "mayor" of New Orleans, who had the PRIMARY responsibility of getting the relief effort started, wasn't even smart enough to move the school buses that HIS brain surgeons had pre-arranged as part of their emergency evacuation plan out of the flood area so that they could be used to help get people out quickly in case something like this happenned; of course, none of the people in the same IQ range as yourself will ever admit their was ANY fault, blame, or negligence on the part of the officials of New Orleans for their bungling of the initial relief effort; its so much easier for simpletons like yourself to always blame and expect the Federal Government to run our lives, save our asses, and throw money at every problem and disaster that occurs in this country..

I have alot of compassion for my fellow man, and YOUR Lord jesus christ is not my guiding light...

How much money have you donated so far? How many things have YOU given to local charities, and the Red Cross??? I bet nothing, because illiterates like yourself are too busy insulting other folks opinions and finding fault with EVERYTHING anyone says or does, that you don't and can't be bothered with actually DOING SOMETHING besides finding fault and complaining about things that you have no idea about how to change..

I'll compare my 156 IQ to yours any day, my feeble minded friend..and, if it bothers you so much to read anyones' opinion here, you are more than welcome to not read it or visit here...

And by the way, I would fight to the death to defend YOUR right to express YOUR opinion here and any where else, whether I agree with it or not...

Now, its time for me to get back to "blowing my goats"...

Alas poor Dopey, I knew him well...

Really man, to say your post is out of line is readily apparent, and as evidenced by your personal attacks on people you don't even know personally, you must be of the sort of weasel that your name implies. Tell you what, why don't you just leave and never come back, I will be happy to be the first to wipe your account - really you are entitled to your opinions about things but dude you are seriously unhinged; the hate filled ignorant drivel that you spout seems quite contradictory to what you preach, you seem to embody the definition of a hypocrite full of double standards.

Sheesh, what an ass you are. I mean your statements are so off the wall that they don't even foster an honest debate; and you are the one accusing others of being "sheep" while you seem to echo all the other far left wingers that are screaming into the air trying to draw attention to themselves - you probably think the president planned for the planes to fly into the buildings all along - what rubbish. Why don't you start a revolution dope, and let it start in your mind first, you obviously have some resentment and bitterness going on - Learn to love yourself first before you can love others. All your self-loathing and hate is very unnactractive.

Have a nice day jerkoff.

/JD

Appaerntly DopeSleazele likes to push his political point of view, on the deaths of the Tsunami and the Huricane victims, it does'nt sound like he gives a damn about the people that lost their lives, He talks of compassion... I see none. I only see that he can judge others for there shortcomings, criticism at this point, right or wrong will not bring back one person, or improve the situation, there are thoose that help, and thoose that can only focus on the negative.

I see that you had great compassion back in December after the Tsunami See Here for the context of the Tsunami suffering thread that you Hijacked for Political gain: http://www.betaone.net/forum/showthread.php?p=74822#post74822

WTF?!?!?!- just watched that video link belth....:huh: :confused1 :wacko:

/JD

That the 1st time? Real gem, isn't he?

the worst part of it all, is that so many young people, both black and white look up to this idiot as some sort of "leader", and role model...

Man o man....that was unbelievable...

/JD

That is simply not true. And at no point did I claim that I know how you feel, I am only going off the simple minded statements that you made in your previous statement. And if you feel that you have the right to your opinion, then I have that same right... so deal with it. Just recently this administration pushed through a bill, to the chagrin of the ACLU, that bans flag burning as a form of protest. Albeit you can still burn a cross on your black neighbors front lawn... but the flag, I guess that's just going too far.

Bringing up the point about IQs proves nothing as if you ask any psychologist, your IQ is not an adequate gauge of a persons true intelligence... besides the fact that you have no idea what mine is. But I can bet that you are not as educated as I am in current events and recent politics. I am active in several groups including the ACLU and Veterans For Peace. I write letters and emails to my congress men and women on a frequent basis. Oh, and I vote, do you?

http://costofwar.com/

You want to talk about "throwing money" at a problem. What about 200 BILLION dollars? How much of that money do you think it would have taken to bring the levies and floodwalls up to an appropriate standard? It may have taken years to do, but that is just a glaring example of how long the idea of poor citizens being worthless has permeated the governmental systems in this country.

I have given money. I am a college student and I live paycheck to paycheck. But I donated $50 cash and close to $100 in food and personal hygiene supplies... how much did you donate?

I HAVE fought to defend what I thought was a great country. I spent 4 years in the trenches with the US Army. My ETS was Aug 18 2005. Have YOU spent any time in the armed forces? You SAY that you would, but is that true? Have you... if not, then shut your ignorant mouth. You like to bring up the idea that you have a high IQ... well prove it, say something worthwhile, use words that make you sound intelligent, or anything because simply spouting off regurgitated slogans from FOX news and other conservative groups certainly doesn't prove your point.

I am fed up with the lack of compassion and care that people seem to have for their fellow man. Kick me out if you think that will solve anything, but one day I hope you will learn that people are worth more than what this corporatized government attests they are worth.

Furthermore, I will NOT apologize as I feel it is YOU who need to make the apology. THOUSANDS have died and this is a very, very serious matter. I will NOT apologize to those who cannot respect the dead. And that is quite simply what this thread has done. You have disrespected all the dead in New Orleans and tried to place blame on the local government when that blame is completely unfounded. Please, please, for the sake of all those lost souls... do not let this go, do not let people tell you that this wasn't a serious issue. Do not let all those people die over nothing.

Don't swallow anything too salty. If you can't take my insults and oppinions with a grain of salt, you don't deserve to understand them.

Agreed, Tubey!

Thank you for a logical and intelligent assessment of the situation. Maybe I did come on a little too strong, but this is how serious I take this matter. It is no joke when so many thousand American citizens die. This is the USA and I at one time fought for the ideas that are in our Constitution, and I am still fighting today within various political groups. The Republicans and neo-conservatives are turning what used to be a great country into a facist dictatorship (if you don't agree, I'd be happy to give you all a lesson). I feel that you are slightly misdirected though as this administration has been cutting every social program since it came into power. This includes the Core of Engineers budget to repair and upgrade the floodwalls in New Orleans. If the government would have realized the seriousness of this back when it was proposed to them, this situation would have never arised and it is possible that New Orleans would be dry today.
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001051313
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...090102261.html
http://www.democrats.com/node/5847
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/...na_bush_budget
Video and Commentary Here:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200509020001

EDIT: In response to your "What Say You" I say that I praise Mr. West for his statement. That is precisely what this country needs, people who care enough to risk their reputation for what they believe. How can you think that this will help him? Remember the Dixie Chicks and their attempt to protest the war? He knows very well that he could loose some fans for expressing himself, yet he understands that this issue is more important then the money that he makes.

EDIT2: Added more links for ya'll to get some good info from. If you disagree, take time to read them and tell me why.

I am convinced that the right wing in America is out to take away the social benefits the Democrats accorded Americans under FDR's time. It will devestate our children (in the US). I am suspicious of the present administration for obvious reasons. The Bush ancestory, Carlyle Group etc. My Italian daughter did research on this for her university degree and asked me to read her thesis. I was totally shocked by what she revealed and after doing a lot of research, decided she had it pretty close to target.

Notwithstanding, America is a wonderful land, even if imperfect, and trying to promulgate ideals to other countries it cannot assure to its own citizens.

But, hey, this country was established on some basic principles. You work for a day and you get a day's wages. It was never conceived as a socialist state like France, Germany or Italy. Have we grown fat and lazy? Even Japan, which is more socialist than any country I ever lived in, offers fewer benifits to its citizens than the US.

I don't want to be part of a political argument because I've been there, done that ,and understand it's all about power. Fourtunately there are a lot of caring guys on BetaONE who really have feelings. It's nice to test ideas and exchange feelings.

My other daughter is a fundamentalist Christian who lives in Dallas and she believes GWB walks on water and that his and her future were ordained by Jesus, personally. I have some difficulties with this kind of thinking. It is self serving and denies personal responsiblitiy.

I dunno, guys, the more I live on this planet, the more I love its inhabitants, and the more I am frustrated by bizarre tangental ideas. Sorry for this rant, and maybe I misunderstood all the palaber, cuz I dont' take enough time to read it word for word.

Notwithstanding, let's get behind the Salvation Army and the Red Cross. As for the politicians, they'll perish or live based on the media. I haven't got a lot of respect for our managers, based on a life of living in many states and countries. Remember, it's your tax dollars that pay for our managers.

Even if Bush is blameless, it is pathetic that he seems to have jumped in only after the world press condemned the USA as a third world country based on the TV coverage.



Pax

Who then gets the blame? Ultimately whose fault is it when someone sees a train coming and does not get out of the way? Is it the corporation that made the train? Oh wait, I see, the corporations, George Bush, Dick Cheney, Haliburtun, etc. have induced global warning which in turn has created these runaway greenhouse effects which have raised the temperature of the ocean which fuels these great behemoths of hurricanes. Aren't they the ones that are really responsible? Let's sue them.

Dope you really need to get out more often, watch the sun rise sometimes, walk hand in hand with your inner self - I'll even get out my pipes of Pan and we can dance around a tree naked in the forest....

Really man, you hurl around names and stereotypes like it's going out of style and you expect respect? All I see is another form of racism and hatred.

Whatever...

/JD

And I hear yah rikytik, let's try to not forget that's it's not the government that made this country what it it today, it's the people. We can sit around and point fingers all day and argue till we're blue in the face but it won't help anything but our own egos. Let's try to help others when and where we can and be happy with ourselves. :)

Nitey nite fellas...

"You have disrespected all the dead in New Orleans and tried to place blame on the local government when that blame is completely unfounded."

Did you not see my most recent post? If you refuse to accept the fact that ALL emergency plans are first based on local response then you are simply ill informed. Have you not seen what my fellow Texans have done? Do you think we waited for the feds? We flipped the Astrodome in 24 hrs because we have an emergency plan and we kicked it into gear when asked.

9-11? When the twin towers were FIRST bombed in 1996 NYC (under republican Gulliani) they came up with several emergency plans based on need. When 9-11 happened NYC kicked into gear their plan! Just like Houston did last week. Those weren't feds running into the towers, those were local cops and firefighters! They didn't run away like the cops in New Orleans.

(NEW ORLEANS, Sept. 3 - Reeling from the chaos of this overwhelmed city, at least 200 New Orleans police officers have walked away from their jobs.

Sorce:_http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/04/national/nationalspecial/04police.html?ei=5090&en=8bf8550c348bbc33&ex=12834 86400&partner=rssuserland&emc
=rss&pagewanted=print) and as of Monday this week 1/3 of the NOPD haven't shown up for work. I didn't hear of ONE NYPD dude leaving!


I don't want to ban you because of your feelings but, if you are so full of hate for W that you are no longer capable of using higher brain functions, maybe you should leave?

moveon.org is a hate group and could probably use your talents.

Please take a deep breath before you post more hate and force us to take actions we don't want to. You're a long time member here and I would personally feel sad if we lose you.

Fact is there's a LOT of balme to go around and hopefuly we'll get to the bottom of it in due time. Perhaps you should consider your mind is so poluted with hatred for W you can no longer think clearly?

Just a thought.

TuB.

I couldn't agree more, and I am sorry your daughter is a bit mixed up. I live in Texas myself and can see how it would simply be easier to go with the flow here. My girlfriend and I can't find a good church to go to here. I swear to you the last one we tried, the preacher actually said "Well, I guess if you're democrat you might get into heaven" and then went on to say what horrible people the French were for not following us blindly into war. I couldn't even sit through the rest of his sermon.

Well, I can't argue with the Barbar quote though I have heard (some) evacuees say they have more in the Astrodome then they had at home.

In anycase, you seem to be calming down and using the higher brain capacity of which I spoke of earlier. But you still haven't addressed the point of my thread (nor have most of the other posts) which is...

...Is in not ignorant for a (c)rapper to go on nationwide television begging for money only to piss on 1/2 of the audience? If I ran a Protestant private school that got blown away by a tornado I wouldn't go on TV begging for money and say "The Pope SUX!"

So the question remains. How ignorant is Kanye West?

I'm waiting for someone to say "yes, he's a brilliant person and should be put in charge of raising money for Katrina victims".

No?

TuBe

Tubeboy, once again you jump to inapropriate conclusions without properly researching your oppinion. You try to rebut what I say without even reading what I said. I did "say "yes, he's a brilliant person." At least he's got the balls to stand up for what is right, regardless of the fanbase that he may loose over his claims. I don't see you making a stance to enact change in this corrupt country. Maybe you should open your eyes and ears before you jump to the conclusion that "George Bush walks on water and can do no wrong."

My sister has worked for non-profits all of her life, and one of the things she always says is you never alieniate ANYONE when you are trying to raise money for your cause...In that regard, there is NO DOUBT that he has squandered the opportunity to solicit donations from ANYONE who supports Bush...
And, can anyone say that this guy is "Brilliant"???

My God, Einstein was brilliant, Edison was brilliant, Picasso was brilliant, George Washington Carver was brilliant, Martin Luther King was brilliant.....Does this guy deserve to be put in the same catagory as the aforermentioned people"??
There is a tremendous difference between being "brilliant" and "having balls"..

Let's not go too hard on the haters - it could be a psychological condition:

:eek:

/JD