Just a brief note before the Democratic convention begins. Starting tomorrow you're going to hear about what a brave, heroic man JFK is. After all, he's Viet Namn war HERO! He has 3 Purple Hearts to prove it! But you might like to do a bit of research about "Purple Hearts" before you fall for his line of crap.

Purple Hearts are awarded to those who are wounded during combat. If you run across a mine field to save your bud and don't get scratched, you don't get a Purple Heart. JFK received 3 Purple Hearts in about 4 months! And NEVER missed a day in the field! Now I wonder, how bad were these wounds? One report says he received a piece of shrapnel in the butt from a mortor round he fired at a rock which ricocheted and DEMANDED the doctor wright it up as a "war wound".

Now I don't want to dis ANYONE who severed the USA in ANY war! But it's important to look at JFK's record in congress. He voted against EVERY major defense bill in the last 20 years including the development of the stealth bomber and fighter. When Ronald Reagan decided to go "toe to toe" with the Soviet Union JFK voted to freeze our nuclear weapons programs.

Now, if you're a "peacenik" who thinks France, Germany and, the UN have the best interests of the USA in mind, JFK *is* your man. But if you pay attention to the DNC this week, you'll see JFK claim he is STRONG on defense. In otherwords, he wants you to forget EVERYTHING he has stood for the last twenty years in congress.

The point is, JFK will tell you what you want to hear and then Fk you. Don't forget, while he claims to "relate to the common man" he owns a private jet, rides in SUV's he says aren't his (they belong to my family but they aren't mine) and has a buttler?!?!?!?

In defense of "W", you may disagree with him but you must admit, he hasn't taken the easy way out. He NEVER looked at the "polls" and fed you the shat you wanted to hear.

More from Tube next time :D

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i am not a bush fan but this guy is the hollywoodies,socialists,and welfare leeches wet dream.

he kissed up to the United Auto Workers Union for their indorsement then drives and in a rolls royce.

_http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040723-111416-8086r.htm

the local newspaper ran a acticle praising him today. "He his the scion of two of Americas founding families". big lie,big lie. his parental grand parents were jewish immigrants from what is now austria. they changed their name and religion after moving to the boston area. french john said he only learned about this 15 years ago,after being asked about the details by a newspaper reporter{i am sure his father never mentioned it to him}. his mother is a member of the english/french forbes family. founding families my donkey.
the reporter more than likely copied the article directly from a dnc handout.

not much choice. vote for a dumbass or a complete phony who has a hard time making up his mind on what to eat for breakfast.
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Great post tube! This is the truth. Do your researchand you will find that JFK is one of the most far left (ie - socialist) politicians to occupy a seat in the senate and his voting record copared with his press satements make him among the biggest hypocrites I have had the displeasure of seeing as a candidate for the presidency [of the USA].

Doder, you may be right about Kerry's views and his family, but as far as the choice goes for who to vote for...I think Bush is the obvious choice...and just because he is not the best public speaker does not make Bush "dumb". He is likely to be a far better educated individual than you or I and comes from a family of quite intelligent, well connected and dilligently accomplished people. He went to the best schools and grew up in an environment conducive to his grooming as a politician, leader and eventually president. I commend Bush for his stance on terrorism, his economic policy, and his resolve in all his decisions - including what may have been a bad decison to go to Iraq, but one in which he has NOT backed down from as a bandwaggoner like Kerry would have. A man of character is what America needs and Kerry that is not. I will vote Bush as I urge you to...or if not, vote Libertarian.

Right now I think anyone would look good next to Bush.

The type of person we need in office is the one that will never run.

It's kind of like playing Fear Factor. Your told you can eat this or that and really you don't want either, but you have to pick one. :P

Don't Vote!! I'm not going to. :) Last day of summer classes next Thursday, week from day, we are having a don't vote rally. lol

Most 18-20 do not give a rats donkey. I sure don't. ;)

well, I voted for Bush, and will agree he is one of the biggest bufoons to ever sit in the White House, but I am pretty certain I dont want Kerry in there insted..

check this outl the first video will make you pee your pants..

http://demsextrememakeover.com/

Nice link. Although, the windows media player link came with an error. :o

Maybe Gates don't like the link. :blink:

I used my real alternitive media player. Use yours here:

Well here's my two cents worth as your neighbour North of the border your President will affect the every day lives of Canadians and how our two Nations do business because of this I pay fairly close attention to American politics. George.W Bush may have started out fairly week after the last election because of the dimpled and hanging chads, but when 9/11 happened he reacted and struck back at the people who were responsible I beleive his actions to such an attack were correct his foreign policy with our country leaves something to be desired but leaders change and how we deal with each other changes as well. He represents Americans before anyone else and such leaders are not found that often. Besides John Kerry purple hearts and his marriage to a wealthy heiress his performance on the issues has not been clear. When a big decision is made it needs to be clear and concise something Senator Kerry really has not been. Anyway you have the ability to decide who will lead your country for the next four years. It would be a waste not to exercise your right to vote anyone who doesn't vote has no right to complain about the government. You are given a chance to vote for your representation in all levels of government. Just a thought in Australia it's against the law not to vote.I guess all I am trying to say is get registered and vote

I guess I lost all respect for the DNC when they turned a senator's funeral (Wellstone) into a political rally, booing those from the "other side" that came to pay their respects. Disgusting :(

Here is an article from one of my favorite writers that sums John Kerry up pretty good:

Here is his whole archive for those interested :)
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/t.../archive.shtml

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/JD

It's a bit odd to try and belittle someone and then say your not trying too!

Whatever about purple hearts - Kerry volunteered and he went to Vietnam. Did he have people firing bullets at him. Yes he did. Would I go for that no thanks.

To give a present day analogy. It seems obvious that none have us here have decided to run to the nearest Marine recruiter and bolster the troops in Iraq - Why?because we don't want a bomb up our asses.

So I think its time to give people a break who are far braver than us, (such as my brother in Kabala) tapping away on our keyboards.

Another 4 years of Bush. God help us! Well maybe his Bin Laden friends among the Saudi Oil family may disagree with that.

"Another 4 years of Bush. God help us! Well maybe his Bin Laden friends among the Saudi Oil family may disagree with that. "

I hope you're not basing this statement on the lies in Michael Moore's movie. ALL presidents need to deal with the Saudi Royal familly. To not do so could send the US economy into a total collapse! As far as 'being in bed' with them goes, these connections are tenuous at best.

This election is too important to base your vote on conspiracy theories. Let's keep this discussion as fact based as possible.

Thank you.

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I'm not in the USA so you can ignore me if you like :P but the way the US public votes will affect not only America but also how it deals with the rest of the world.

John F. Kerry may be a "Libertarian" and a "Peacenik" but i'm willing to bet that he isn't in bed with the saudi's, the Bin-Laden's nor the biggest oil suppliers in the world.
I bet he didn't ferry the Bin-Laden and Saudi Royal Familly members back to their homes in Saudi Arabia on a chartered jet when all other domestic and international flights were grounded in the wake of the 9/11 atrocities. He didn't even let the FBI question the above famillys about the whereabouts of Osama. WTF is up with that???? He's saying Osama is the root of all evil and he must be caught at all costs yet he lets his brothers and sisters go home without even questioning them about the man he would eventually start 2 wars in order to catch. Note that i said Started 2 wars- neither the "liberation" of Afghanistan nor Iraq are finished and you are still losing son's, daughters, husbands, wives and uncles.

I bet he didn't lie to, not only the American people (whom he is supposed to represent) but to the rest of the world as well, when he made his tenuous "links" from Bin-Laden to Iraq and Saddam Hussain.

I bet he doesn't think he is on a mission from god to break "The Axis Of Terror".

If Bill "Cuban Cigar" Clinton didn't get thrown out during the impeachment process for fiddling Monica Lewinski in his office you can sure bet he would have been thrown out for spewing as many lie's as Bush has.

Not only has Bush jr lied to you he has run roughshod over the Amendments and Civil Rights Bill's that your forefathers and ancestors fought to attain. Immigrants can now be arrested and held indefinately for no reason other than their country of origin. He can read your emails without you kowing, HE'S TRYING TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE TO SEARCH YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT YOU EVEN KNOWING!!!! He's stripping your freedom and your rights and you don't seem to notice :(

Don't get me wrong- i don't want another life, be it American, Australian etc to be lost. Your troops belived what they were told, they followed their orders and acted with good in their hearts. They thought they were fighting for the good of the World and their Country. They weren't to know that they were fighting for oil concessions and the right to run a pipeline to feed Bush's wealth. That's another crime that should be brought against bush Jnr- the loss of every serviceman and woman who died in his wars should be counted as murder committed by him.

Blair is just as bad, he only joined in the fight to keep you sweet- i feel sick to have voted for that psycophant in the first place :cursing:

EDIT: tube posted his above reply whilst i was typing the above. he dismiss's michael Moore's work as "conspiracy theories". Read "Dude- Where's my country" check his facts and research the documents he cites. Check the laws that are being ammended to strip you of your rights. You can only dismiss him after you have checked the paperwork. Bush is in bed with the Saudi's and the Bin-Laden's- the world can see it but you can't?

"I bet he didn't ferry the Bin-Laden and Saudi Royal Familly members back to their homes in Saudi Arabia on a chartered jet when all other domestic and international flights were grounded in the wake of the 9/11 atrocities."

This is a LIE! Richard Clark (former head of the terroism task force under Clinton AND Bush) who wrote a scathing book praising Clinton and Dissing Bush was in chage of this! And even HE says this claim is NOT TRUE!

And, Dog, seeing you use the term 'Libertarian' in the same sentance with John Kerry only emphasizes the fact you don't have idea one what you're talking about. No disresepect but, Libertarians want LESS government than even Conservatives do! John Kerry wants MORE government! This is the LIBERAL agenda. To make one dependent on government handouts so you vote for them to provide housing, health care, day care, instead of relying one ones own ability to provide for themself.

Sorry man. But you need to get out of the bunker more often. Unless, of course, you WANT the government to tuck you in at night :D


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P.S. Kerry and his wife are TEN TIMES the multi-internationalists as the Bush's are. Check out their mansions around the world, private jets and yachts, former stock holdings in foreign companies (they sold most of them just before Kerry decide to run for president). This guy is a FRAUD and the furthest thing from a "man of the people".

More to come!

I was quoting a post above, not my words :D

Oops! My bad :D

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Ok, I'm going to try and get this thread back on track.

This is where I'm coming from. I believe that 'W' is basically a "what you see is what you get" kinda guy. Love or hate him, I believe he is NOT a "phony". I suffer no illusion that those of you who hate him are prepared to search out the truth of John Kerry. The goal of this thread is show the truley undecided VOTERS here in the USA that the Kerry you see on TV is a total FRAUD!

In the coming weeks I will be posting reliable sorces with links regarding his record in congress, lifestyle, and attempts to manipulate the media and voters into believing he is someone he is not. Those of you willing to do the same with 'W' should feel free to start your own threads.

Thank you.

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Kerry Praises Ohio Football...

...in MICHIGAN!

On Sunday and into Monday, Kerry hit Michigan,"I just came here from Bowling Green," Kerry told the crowd to subdued applause. "I was smart enough not to pick a choice between the Falcons and the, well, you know, all those other teams out there. I just go for Buckeye football, that's where I'm coming from."

At that point, before all the boos began raining down upon him, Kerry seemed to realize his error. In an attempt to silent the angry crowd of University of Michigan supporters, Kerry said, "But that was while I was in Ohio".

_http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6920

If Bush did this, would you call him stupid? I bet you would.

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Yes I would. Then again everybody allready knows him:

"George Bush, we know you,
daddy was a killer too"

Poor America - what a choice...

Stuck between the rock and the hard place- you have to make the choice between 2 "evils". you can either take the devil you know and have seen in all his colours or the devil who's a suprise package. i like a suprise :P

@DoG,

<QUOTE>If Bill "Cuban Cigar" Clinton didn't get thrown out during the impeachment process for fiddling Monica Lewinski in his office you can sure bet he would have been thrown out for spewing as many lie's as Bush has.</QUOTE>

Again you don't know what you are talking about. Clinton was the master liar of all time. Clinton was so averse to the truth that he told lies even when he didn't have too. Plus his lies are not over yet, with the recent publishing of his new book "My Life" ("My Lie" when you correct the typo) he continues to spew lies to cover his behind and try to salvage his legacy. In my opinion, Bush in consultation with our allies came to reasonable conclusions regarding WMDs in Iraq and bravely took the needed action. I believe that the UN "Oil for Food" investigation will reveal that those nations which opposed the US did so because influential members of their governments were bribed by Sadam. Doing the right thing is rarely popular. In a way, criticism of Bush by the European/American Left should be considered a badge of honor that proves he was right.

Tomboy

Lol - Tomboy for politician - No I don't think so.
Now it's you not knowing what you are talking about. Stating that nations that opposed the US criminal actions did so as members of their government were bribed by Sadam is ridiculous. The following thing about getting criticized proves he [Bush] did the right thing is just equally intelligent.

please,

Do me a favor please!! are you brainwashed as well? are you beyond rational thought? Your president started his war so he could get his hands on the oil. His daddy wanted it and now he wants it- he's killed thousands to get what he wants. He blames it on a heinous act of terrorism then repays the act by not only destroying large parts of Afghanistan with similar acts of terrorism but then goes and does it to Iraq as well!! you wonder why people are pissed with him? He betrayed his sountry so he could get rich, i won't even offer odds on the chance that when he leaves office he get's a "job" with a major oil company and sit's on his donkey whilst he counts his cash and laughs all the way to the bank- wich no doubt he will be a member of the board for.

Does it not even bother you that the information he relied upon to start his war was false? Do you feel no remorse for the thousands who have died because of his greed?

There's no way any Bush supporter can convince a Bush hater to change their mind so I won't waste my time.

Back to Kerry the fraud!

Here's the add Kerry doesn't want you to see...

_http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/unfit_video_wmv.html

This add was made by people who severed with Kerry. They did NOT serve on the same BOAT but served WITH him. These swift boats opperated as 'squadrons' much the same way the Air Force does but, at much closer quarters.

These men are DECORATED Viet Nam vets who have signed sworn affidavits and gone on record as saying Kerry is a FRAUD! Yet the big 3 media (ABC,NBC, and CBS) REFUSE to cover their story. Compare this to the coverage the big 3 gave the UNSUBSTANTIATED story of 'W' going "AWOL". The big 3 were ALL OVER *this* story even though there wasn't ONE witness, sworn statement, or document that ever even HINTED that 'W' didn't complete his service.

Now, can I *prove* the Dems don't want you to see this add?

Yerp!

http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesui...unfit_pdf.html

This link will take you to a copy of a fax the DNC sent to television stations threatening possible LEGAL ACTION if they ran the add in question. These are the same Liberals who run screaming and crying when CONSUMERS threaten to stop buying products from rock/hollywood stars who insult their audiences with Bush bashing.

These Liberals scream bloody murder when *fans* tell them too shut up and then cry about their right to "free speech" yet when DECORATED VETS want to tell their story, the Liberals first reaction is to THREATEN them with law suites! I guess "freedom of speech" is only for the Liberal elite and NOT for DECORATED VETS!?

More to come...

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P.S. I'm still waiting for you "bunkerheads" to provide links and documents supporting your hate speech.

Here is my .02 if the Bush Repbulicans are for the "RICH" and the Democrats are Party for the "POOR". is'nt the election won by the Party with the most people in it that vote. So in order to stay in control you have to increase your numbers right? So who is going to increase their numbers? and which would you rather be ?

About Civil Liberties they are useless if you are DEAD.

If regime changes begins at Home, 1st I don't want any regime running america.

Freedom is'nt Free.

my .02c

In his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention last month, John Kerry told the story of Mary Ann Knowles, a New Hampshire woman with breast cancer who Kerry said, "had to keep working day after day right through her chemotherapy, no matter how sick she felt, because she was terrified of losing her family's health insurance."

But New Hampshire's Union Leader newspaper reports Knowles had 26 weeks of paid disability leave available, and was never in danger of losing her insurance.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128827,00.html


When will "Big Media" tell the truth about Kerry?


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