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Zone-MR 10th Jan 04 03:17 PM

Courtesy of NeoWin:

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It appears a tiny registry change on a machine running Windows XP SP2 will enable SP2's Concurrent Sessions for Remote Desktop. This allows more than one user to use the machine at the same time.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Control/Terminal Server/Licensing Core

Create a new DWORD entry "EnableConcurrentSessions" and assign a value of 1 to it. Concurrent Sessions is now enabled.

Microsoft's response to this matter in the SP2 newsgroups was:

"I am curious about your report that the Registry Key you mentioned is allowing you to log on with multiple users concurrently. This registry key should do nothing. Could you please confirm that you are able to have two users logged on to your XP SP2 box at the same time? And further what changes you made to make this possible? "

We exclusively revealed that Windows XP SP2 would contain Concurrent Sessions back in April 2003, since then many sites have claimed SP2 wouldn't contain Concurrent Sessions but it shall.


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DoG 10th Jan 04 03:23 PM

Damn, this means i am going to have to install XPSP2 again to test it out :D

Zone-MR 10th Jan 04 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by DoG@Jan 10 2004, 03:23 PM
Damn, this means i am going to have to install XPSP2 again to test it out :D
Hehe, I installed XPSP2 (b2055) on three computers, and it's working smootly without ANY problems. Just installing it on my ICS box now, where concurrent sessions will be useful... will let you know if the registry hack works.

~*McoreD*~ 11th Jan 04 03:12 AM

I just knew only last week that Windows Server 2003 supports concurrent sessions. :D


Thanks Zone for this great info. :)

skloo77 20th Jan 04 03:16 AM

isn't xpsp2 still in the beta stage??

~*McoreD*~ 20th Jan 04 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by skloo77@Jan 20 2004, 11:16 AM
isn't xpsp2 still in the beta stage??
Yes. Windows XP SP2 BetaONE build: 2055 ;)

~*McoreD*~ 23rd Mar 04 07:46 AM

Can anybody please confirm if this works with XP SP2 RC1? Thanks in advance. :)

TRYJAY 23rd Mar 04 11:52 PM

ok I did the regediting.
need to restart.
What am I to do when I logon?
Whats the process??

DigitalSteel 24th Mar 04 02:56 AM

that same add-0n will hurt microsoft

i mean if the wrong person gets it and uses it

I_R_lectrishun 24th Mar 04 03:35 AM

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What am I to do when I logon?
Whats the process??

What you do is setup two user accounts, log onto one, log onto the other with remote desktop and you can be doing two different things at once on the same computer. Normally, only one user can control or be logged on at a time.

TRYJAY 24th Mar 04 06:07 AM

won't werk for me??
Won't allow another connection!

~*McoreD*~ 25th Mar 04 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by TRYJAY@Mar 24 2004, 02:07 PM
won't werk for me??
Won't allow another connection!

Dammit. So that means the a remote users was not allowed to be logged on while the local user is logged on? :(

I am still downloading XP SP2 RC1 from dialup. I will try this once I am done. Thank you for your time.

lickablepig 25th Mar 04 03:44 AM

Should or is this testing supposed to be done under the same PC or two seperate ones or does it not matter, ? also is not it true using a virtual pc it sometimes will work on the virtual but not on a standalone or networked PC?
thanks for your thoughts, jiz

Edit: I'm still trying to download an sp2 that is not corrupt...

i've downloaded 3 different ones from different sites incuding MS's and also different and the same machines (broadband) and each time while extracting the sp2, at the end of extraction, I get "file is corrupt" error meessage.

6 different times has got to be non coincedental... I cannot find anything wrong on my pc's... downloading other large files this does not happen. Been on both a fat32 sys and ntfs, XP pro VLK builds SP1. Maybe i will try again later...
lates, jiz

Finally downloaded a good sp2 rc1 file that would extract, :lol: btw, it slipped fine and I like the additions very much!

After tweaking security centre settings and reconfig of my lan all is well no speed loss or weirdness yet... ;)

~*McoreD*~ 25th Mar 04 04:23 AM

To find if this registry setting work:
You usually need two PCs

Suppose: User1 and User2 are two user accounts in Computer #1

Login as User1 in Computer #1.
Enable Remote Desktop Connection in that PC (if it is not already enabled)
Do NOT logout
Go to Computer #2 and start Remote Desktop Connection in that PC
Type the Computer #1's IP address and connect as User2
Go to Computer #1 and go to Task Manager
Under Users tab, There should be two users ACTIVE.

TRYJAY 25th Mar 04 04:59 AM

I don't think this is what they mean by Concurrent Sessions In Xpsp2


"To find if this registry setting work:
You usually need two PCs

Suppose: User1 and User2 are two user accounts in Computer #1

Login as User1 in Computer #1.
Enable Remote Desktop Connection in that PC (if it is not already enabled)
Do NOT logout
Go to Computer #2 and start Remote Desktop Connection in that PC
Type the Computer #1's IP address and connect as User2
Go to Computer #1 and go to Task Manager
Under Users tab, There should be two users ACTIVE."

TRYJAY 25th Mar 04 06:02 AM

But I could be wrong!!

lickablepig 26th Mar 04 04:27 AM

ripped from other place...

Here is some kind of proof i guess... but not for XP SP2 RC1, just beta1 afaik.
concurrent is concurrent one or two boxes, no?

Quote:

If you run XP SP2 beta 1, you can enable it now, the setting taken from Windows Server 2003 enables it for winXP sp2!

Limit though is you need to be logged on as different user.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Terminal Server\Licensing Core
Create a new DWORD entry "EnableConcurrentSessions" and assign a value of 1 to it. Concurrent Sessions is now enabled.

No need to reboot!


lickablepig 26th Mar 04 04:29 AM

creen shot 2

~*McoreD*~ 26th Mar 04 04:44 AM

screenshot2 - that's the one I was talking about! :)

Unfortunately, this registry fix seems not to work in RC1. I suppose they have completely removed the ability of having concurrent sessions?

FYI:
http://www.winsupersite.com/faq/xpsp2.asp
Microsoft removed the concurrent sessions feature from XP SP2, at least temporarily, and current builds do not include this feature. It remains to be seen whether concurrent sessions will be included in XP SP2.

lickablepig 26th Mar 04 04:53 AM

~*McoreD*~ Here's some other nfo that might help with da quest for Concurrent Sessions In Xpsp2... 2096 that is.
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Microsoft removed the functionality from the new termsrv.dll in build 2082, but it can be regained by replacing the new termsrv.dll with the one fromm build 2055.
Quote:

Another note: it wasn't really necessary to reinstall Windows XP. The trick still works if you install SP2 over SP1. Just be sure to have Fast User Switching and the Welcome Screen enabled
Code:

by using gpedit.msc and navigating through to Terminal Services, you can increase the number of users allowed to be connected by using this method.

ripped>>>>

You can enable more than 2 simultaneous log-ins by running gpedit.msc and going to: Computer config./admin. templates/windows components/terminal services and enabling the setting: Limit number of connections, then entering values in there.

Quote:

A digested, simplified procedure that WORKS on SP2.2082-

Make the registry changes Make the policy changes. Copy the termsrv.dll from here:

[hide]/http://members.lycos.nl/nessyh/files/term/termsrv.dll[/hide]
(2055) to somewhere convienient.
Shut down.

Boot to a Recovery Console/ or ERD Commander 2002/2003 (any Alternate OS with Disk writes will do)

delete c:\windows\system32\dllcache\termsrv.dll

Rename c:\windows\system32\termsrv.dll to "Termsrv.dll.2082" (or something else you can find later if you want to back out)

copy the termsrv.dll (from 2055) to the system32 directory

Reboot into your XP and enjoy your mini-terminal server (note: each user session must be a different local user on the PC.)

Yo, don't worry about it things have not changed in 2096 in regard to the Terminal Server (at least not that I have seen.) I was hoping Microsoft would loosen up and outright ALLOW us to have multiple sessions, or the two remote ones that 2000 would get for remote administration but no. Use the same procedure anyway: it works. Still a max of 3 active sessions though, remote or local. I've been considering searching through winlogon.exe for all instances of '3' *with a hex editor that is.

just some bit's and pieces found from around da way...
lates, jiz

TRYJAY 26th Mar 04 07:08 PM

Help...
keep gettin an error!

Unable to download from /http://members.lycos.........1

Tryjay..

Tomilius 2nd Apr 04 08:09 PM

lickablepig, at first I liked that you quoted some of the stuff I posted, but then you added "Yo" to something I said and tried to make it your own! But I won't hold it against you ;).

TRYJAY, that link should work - http://members.lycos.nl/nessyh/files/term/termsrv.dll. It's from the website of a friend of mine... if not, just get the termsrv.dll from a build of 2055, because that's all it is. Follow the instructions all the wonderful people (including me :-D) at http://www.winbeta.org/winbeta/forum...iew=getnewpost.

Concurrent sessions do work in 2096, according to LICKABLEPIG !! :angry: ;-) Just use 2055's termsrv.dll.

~*McoreD*~ 3rd Apr 04 12:13 AM

Thanks for the visit to here and for the link, Tomilius. Welcome to BetaONE. :)

Tomilius 3rd Apr 04 10:43 PM

Thanks... :D

aletheuo 4th Apr 04 11:23 PM

FYI - just upgraded from SP1 to SP2 RC1 (2096) and concurrent sessions was enabled and working with the instructions posted at the top of this thread... until I installed the Microsoft Updates for SP2 RC1 and then it didn't work anymore. (termsrv.dll was not replaced by the updates... still was 2055 one)

So, I began uninstalling the updates one at a time from the bottom of the list in "Add/Remove Programs - show updates" - after I uninstalled the 2nd one from the bottom (sorry, don't remember the exact name of it but it was a March Beta patch I think) I had concurrent users working again in SP2. Yes! Back in business.

It sure would be nice to know which file was replaced in that beta to break concurrent sessions. If someone knows please post here.

TRYJAY 4th Apr 04 11:59 PM

"I had concurrent users working again in SP2. Yes! Back in business."
How did you connect twice?
From 2 puters, or from one at same time?
Would like to get this to werk.....
PeacE!

DoG 5th Apr 04 12:21 AM

You need to log into one computer as normal, as if you were sat in front of it and using it and then connect to your computer using RDP from another location i.e. from another computer on your lan or over the internet.

Tomilius 5th Apr 04 01:21 AM

Hey Aletheuo, I was having a problem where shortly after logging in it displays "Logging off..." in the same type of box as "Loading your personal settings..." This happens when trying to log on to a user which is not already logged on. Connecting to a currently-inactive console session (or active one) works though. I uninstalled every single update and no luck.

aletheuo 6th Apr 04 06:52 PM

To let you know I am using concurrent seesions with sp2 rc1 now with no problem using termsrv.dll 2055

And... before I uninstalled the last two patches in rc1 i got the "you'll have to disconnect one of the following users..." dialog b4 i could log in.

Now I can have 3 users connected and working simultaneously - when the fourth logs on it just kicks them right away.

And I know I'm prone to mistakes but I've been working with TS for 4 years now and i mostly know what i am talking about.

James

aletheuo 6th Apr 04 06:56 PM

tryjay: was same computer with multiple TS sessions. ie/ me, my wife, my daughter's accounts all at the same time.

Tomilius: never had any issues with the "logging off" thing. But maybe an expired license held over from prev. install or logoff script hanging?

James

Tomilius 7th Apr 04 06:59 PM

This is very interesting. A bug in the NVidia display drivers (version 5.6.7.2 and maybe some before and after) was causing my problem, and it's official. They must do something with the registry that forces you to be using an NVidia card somehow when you first log on... because it tries to load the NVidia drivers right away... I'm not sure. Maybe Microsoft and NVidia made some kind of secret agreement. Just don't install the new drivers for now.

Tomilius 2nd May 04 08:34 PM

http://groups.msn.com/Pass-TS/chat.msnw

You can chat here about this kind of stuff. Maybe we can get an active "support group" going ;)

~*McoreD*~ 16th Jul 04 01:04 PM

Windows XP SP2 is now up to the RC2 stage, are we really going to see this feature enabled by the RTM release? :huh:

war59312 16th Jul 04 05:29 PM

Nope. Longhorn. :(


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