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lars46 27th Jan 02 05:46 AM

Yes it is. I made one back in December. It's best to first try with DVD-RW first so if you screw up you don't waste a disk.
1) Open your bootable ISO with WinIso.
2) Add the files you need and save as a new image. If you try to re-open with WinIso, you will probably get an error. WinIso doesn't like large ISO's.
3) Burn with Instant CD DVD.

greggus 27th Jan 02 06:50 PM

oki, thx :)

moen 11th Feb 02 06:34 AM

This is unbelievably useful...keep it up

Jarod888 19th Feb 02 07:35 AM

nice thread i will follow this, it is very interesting.

Aquarian11 21st Feb 02 05:24 PM

This is great. You write really good documents.

techman2830 23rd Feb 02 07:39 PM

Great series thanks for the info

gpn3376 12th Mar 02 10:13 PM

Has anyone had any problems using a WINNT.SIF file to automtically insert the serial numbers for home and XP with this N in 1 Build.

I've completed all the instructions and joy of joy have a perfect multiboot CD - but although the WINNT.SIF file is present in both I386 directory's, the install seems to completly ignore it.

Any ideas anyone?

khauyeung 12th Mar 02 11:30 PM

I believe the WINNT.SIF should be put into the boot-folder (e.g. wpro/wper) instead of the i386 folder to take effect if you boot the CD to install.

oscar2043 13th Mar 02 12:14 AM

Yes, it is possible,

In order to make an Unattended multi-boot Nn1 CD we must add
WINNT.SIF, (normally placed in i386 folders in single version CDs), in another folders.
The folders are that ´containing a minimum set of drivers and other required files for DOS Setup Stage of Professional or Home´,(121 files, 1 folder)

More about these in

http://www.betaone.net/forums/showth...threadid=25485

oscar2043 13th Mar 02 12:31 AM

I make in Khauyeung fine work a cosmetic edition.
I wrote a short routine in diskemu.cmd to emulate xp cd behaviour during boot up.



; by Michael K.H. Au-Yeung, on 02/15/2002
; (CD-Rom multiboot loader and disk emulator by Bart Lagerweij)
;
; Some notes:
; - do not use tabs in this file! Use spaces!
; - the key "tags" like "esc", "entr", ... must be lowercase!
;
; I have added this new lines **********************
:boot
cls
print
print Press Enter to boot from CD...
getkey 7 esc
onkey esc boot 80
onkey entr goto start
; When no key found...
goto boot
; till here ******************************************
:start
cls
print
print --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print Windows XP Professional-Home Editions 8n1 CD (English Ver.) by khauyeung-oscar
print --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
print F1=Help 1) Setup Windows XP Professional (MSDN, Corporate)
print 2) Setup Activated Windows XP Home Edition (OEM)
print 3) Setup Unattended Windows XP Professional
print 4) Setup Unattended Windows XP Home Edition
print 5) Setup Untouched Windows XP Professional (OEM)
print 6) Setup Untouched Windows XP Home Edition (OEM)
print 7) Setup Untouched Windows XP Professional (Retail)
print 8) Setup Untouched Windows XP Home Edition (Retail)
print -----------------------------------------------------
print a) Boot Windows 98 [Version 4.10.2222] from CD-Rom
print b) Boot Windows 98 to run NTFSDOS-Pro from CD-Rom
print c) Run Partition Magic 7 from a RAM Drive
print d) Development->
print q) Quit to command prompt
print r) Reboot
print Esc) Boot first harddisk
print
print Hit the key of choice:
:mainkey
; timeout is 20 seconds, default key is escape
;getkey 20 esc change this with getkey only***************
getkey
onkey 1 goto wpro
onkey 2 goto wpah

.........................................

HeSiCk 14th Mar 02 05:28 PM

khauyeung,

Your index page is missing dude. :(

HeSiCk 15th Mar 02 08:01 PM

[quote:04e12fdcd5][i:04e12fdcd5]Originally posted by khauyeung [/i:04e12fdcd5]
[b:04e12fdcd5]I currently do not maintain an index page at my ISP's web space. But you still can click the [b][www][/b:04e12fdcd5] button under my post to view a mirror of my Home Page. [/quote:04e12fdcd5]

Thanks. I never noticed that [WWW] thing down there. :o

oscar2043 20th Mar 02 12:57 AM

Hi,
This is a link to a very good page with all about multi-boot Cds, including a GUI version of CDImage.

h##p://www.tech-hints.com/xp.html

Cactus 16th Apr 02 12:37 AM

Hi all,

I'm sore to misuse this thread, but it is about the n-in-1 technology. Í have a Dutch 7 in 1 version cooked up, but I would like to complete it to a 9 in 1. All I'm missing are the (just 5) files from the Dutch OEM version of Windows XP Home Edition.

If [u:25b41910e8]you[/u:25b41910e8] can help me on this please let me know.

I'm finalising the 7 in 1 version right now, I'll let you know when/where/how it will be available. Fot those who are interested of course.

Anyhow, hope any1 can help me out here,

Cheers
Cactus

:o I know I'm not posting this in the right section here, but I've been looking for so long that I don't know where to turn anymore . . .
Also I wanna thank Michael again for making this all possible. You don't know how many people benefit from this information!

pcservicetech 23rd Apr 02 05:42 AM

over 4gb

Cactus 23rd Apr 02 07:54 PM

/pc,

Check the upstairs room. ITS THERE!! (in Dutch I might add)

The initial ISO is 5.5 Gb. Of course you need a NTFS drive to pull this off. Believe me, it is possioble; I cooked a working one myself!

It seem working. I can extract the image OK, and the installations started from a Win32 environent seem OK. I've booted to some installations, and they seem in order too.

Is the limit of 4Gb in the booted installations? Or did I mis understand completely?

Cheers
Cactus

Cactus 23rd Apr 02 11:55 PM

;) :)

So how is going to cook the first English 9in1? Any voluntears? :)

gosh 24th Apr 02 11:16 AM

I've been following this thread and thought i would add to it.

First, i found out how to auto insert the serial number for xp and 2k. Someone earlier mentioned how to do it but i thought i would confirm it works.

For instance, lets say you have a cd with win2k and winxp. The boot loader is XPROSECT, it loads the files in folder XPRO, which contains the minimum files needed. It then redirects to another folder that has the i386 files. All you need to do is make an unattend.txt file, rename it to winnt.sif, and put it in the XPRO folder, in this example. The XPRO folder should be around 8 megs or so.

Another thing i thought of is i made a cd that has the following:

win2k pro sp2
win2k server sp2
winxp home
winxp pro

The only way this fit is by using a shortcut. What you do is put in your xp cd, let's assume it's drive D. Then from a run box you type this:

d:i386winnt32.exe /noreboot

During the install choose new installation, once it's done look at your c drive, it'll have 2 folders like ~winnt_bt~ and ~winnt_ls~, one is 8 megs, the other folder is 200 megs or so. The 8 meg folder you would rename to XPRO or whatever you want. The other folder name to WinXPPRo or whatever you want. Using this method you shave hundreds of megs off the install. However this can only be used for a clean install, the 100+ megs your saving are migration files for upgrades. BUt this is fine by me, i only clean install. Using this method i was able to fit the i386 folder of win2k and winxp pro into a 500 meg iso, this leaves plenty of space for other stuff.

Another point to remember is if you make a cd with win2k or winxp, make sure there's an i386 folder on the root. Otherwise when you go into recovery console and use commands like format /FS:fat32 c:, itll ask for the path of autofrmt.exe or something.

Another idea i have is it takes awhile to boot from the cd, xp setup loads a lot of files before you get the first menu. You can edit setupreg.hiv and delete services you dont need. For instance i loaded setupreg.hiv using xp regedit, went into the currentcontrolset, and deleted the compaq and raid stuff. Using that file, it took half as long to boot from the cd. I dont use raid nor do i have a compaq, so it speeds things up.

For xp one thing i think should be added. XP only supports hard drives up to 137 GIGS. THere's a hotfix for bigger drives that uses an updated atapi.sys file, you might want to add this to any cd's made. After all if you burn a xp cd, then go out and buy a 160 gig hard drive, the cd will be worthless.

As far as the 4 gig limitation, fat32 has a size limit of 4 gigs. NTFS has no such limit.

One thing i would like to ask khauyeung, is if there's anyway to directly boot into recovery console from cd. I tried but had no luck.

Lastly, i just wanted to thank khauyeung. He really should get more credit than he does, he was one of the first to get into this multi boot cd's, and his tutorials are the easist i have found to date.

-gosh

khauyeung 24th Apr 02 11:39 PM

Thanks gosh. With your additional information, the N-in-1 Howto is now more fluent in contents.



Last edited by khauyeung at Jul 20 2002, 10:47 AM

BearCat 19th May 02 11:45 AM

This thread was hiding out in our archive, allso known as " The Dungeons " :p

I thought we better move it here to the FAQ section, so people don't have to ask this again :)

If someone want's to edit/update any of their post,
do it in _the_ post, not a new one, OK ?

Cheer's
/BC

khauyeung 19th Jun 02 03:27 AM

I have added an Appendix Section to this topic and put it in a new thread:

[link]http://www.betaone.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=174498#post174498[/link]

(Full page of N-in-1 Howto can be viewed at /http://members.rogers.com/khauyeung/nin1.htm)

Have fun in cooking your N-in-1!



Last edited by khauyeung at Jul 20 2002, 10:49 AM

tyee 28th Aug 02 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gosh@Apr 24 2002, 10:16 AM
What you do is put in your xp cd, let's assume it's drive D. Then from a run box you type this:

d:i386winnt32.exe /noreboot

During the install choose new installation, once it's done look at your c drive, it'll have 2 folders like ~winnt_bt~ and ~winnt_ls~, one is 8 megs, the other folder is 200 megs or so. The 8 meg folder you would rename to XPRO or whatever you want. The other folder name to WinXPPRo or whatever you want.

Gosh
I tried this procedure and only got a "$WIN_NT$.~BT" folder on my boot drive. There was no other one of about 200MB. Did I do something wrong. I too want to put XP and 2K on a single CD.

tyee

BaBa420 31st Aug 02 07:57 PM

All I can say is WOW! =) Khauyeung...you're a bada55 mutha! Keep up the rocking work. Truly inspiring!


THNX
BaBa
:D

ipdave99 5th Sep 02 02:35 PM

This is the 2nd time I have tried making a n-in-1 cd, and I get the same error:

Setup cannot continue.. see the log.
Cannot read file D:\i386\asms

I had this same prob on xp multiboot, now again with xp-sp1. The only way I got it to work before was to add files to an existing 6-1 iso image, leaving the \i386 and \wpro folders as is.

Do I need to delete one of the \i386\asms subfolders?

ipdave99 5th Sep 02 04:16 PM

Further info:

Looking at the subfolders of \i386\asms, some of the file dates are of the SP1 (28 Aug 2002).
If I force the date stamping of the files when I create the ISO, will that affect the digital signature (CAT) files in each folder?
KH, any ideas?

ipdave99 5th Sep 02 07:20 PM

Guess I answered my own question...

I forced the date for the files, now all is well and my xp/sp1 cd with DI, PM, SI, SM, NTFSDOS, File commander, etc works well. Even updates <so far> at the m$ site. We'll see after 9 sept if this still holds.

Sanjay 22nd Sep 02 07:28 PM

Very informative and educational stuff. Thanks.

ch1p0tl3 28th Sep 02 04:22 AM

I would have to say this is the only truly interesting forum thread I have ever read. Good info all.

thelung187 23rd Oct 02 03:01 PM

An interesting sidenote: Using the method described by Gosh, you cannot slipstream service packs into those types of installations. However, the overall installation size is indeed cut down by almost half the size of an original installation.

Neoveninet 20th Aug 04 03:41 PM

....anyone can provide a workin' link or pm me for khauyeung's files described in this nin1 tutorial?????....i'd appreciate 2 much, thx in advance boys! ;)

DoG 20th Aug 04 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neoveninet@Aug 20 2004, 03:41 PM
....anyone can provide a workin' link or pm me for khauyeung's files described in this nin1 tutorial?????....i'd appreciate 2 much, thx in advance boys! ;)
[snapback]209540[/snapback]

Sorry mate, no can do :)

Neoveninet 21st Aug 04 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DoG@Aug 20 2004, 02:54 PM
Sorry mate, no can do :)
[snapback]209544[/snapback]


....no prob .....gotta them from another source....thx anyway!....i mean what u say!! :) .....

Alpine 4th Jan 06 05:31 PM

where the fuck was i ?! i never see this awsome tread.....
Btw, where is KH ?! Since a long timewe didn't see him!

DoG 4th Jan 06 06:23 PM

This was from B1 at it's heyday, i haven't seen KH around much either but his work still appears from time to time :)


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