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I, too, paid for my copy of WINXP Home. But, without a doubt, the activation process sucks. I installed a new motherboard recently, and had to call to get a new key, at my own expense since I live in Japan and there's no drop down box for my APO AP ZIP. Well, no sooner had I done that than my new motherboard went poof. So, I reinstalled WINXP on my old motherboard and guess what??? I have to get a whole new key again within 30 days. And, if I don't have my new motherboard from the RMA and WINXP reinstalled by then, I'll have to do it all over. I feel like a damn crook when I call MS (the last guy treated me as such), but I'm only dealing with the normal pains of a computer enthusiast. So, sometimes I do wish I'd just break down and go the crooked route (easy enough on my DSL connection), but I'll just make another call to MS at my own expense, adding to the cost of my original purchase...

watashi wa not using Windows XP Home :)
as it needs this WPA everytime.
watashi wa suggest Windows XP Corp is better...
it is already activated and less trouble....

he he i know some Japanese :)
anata no namae wa nan desu ka? :)

Last edited by McoreD at Oct 20 2002, 09:57 PM

Watashi no namae torataka desu. Konnichi-wa, McoreD. Anata no Nihongo jozu desu, watashi no Nihongo anmari jozu janai!

Ima wakatta - WINXP Corp ii, WINXP Home dame!

So is it possible to change my Home to a Corp version, or, as I suspect, do I have to buy the damn thing?

29 days left for activiation, and haven't even contacted Mwave for an RMA yet...

Ogenki desu ka torakata?
Watashi wa namae wa manila desu.

yeah, ima wakatta as well XP CORP ii and XP HOME dame! watashi tachi wa suggest you to go to XP CORP.
however till i or someone help you, i wanna i ask this question: are using SP1 or willing to install SP1? (better if not -- up to now)

P.S:
Nihongo ga sukoshi dekimasu :)
cos my dad was in Japan for three months in 1988. then i was 5yrs old :)
but i know very little :(

Oyasuminasai, torataka :)

Ther is always going to be patched/warezed versions of windows UNLESS they make us give up our right to privacy COMPLETELY. Now which of the two is the bigger evil here? MS is working hard to have an inside track to everything on your computer. The trojan eula for SP1 is just the start people. The thing is though that MS only cares a little about home pirated copies. It is the corporate market where companies have dozens or hundreds of illegal copies that they are losing out the wazoo on, and that is even a laugh. Why? Because MS keeps MAKING money regardless!

Now I used a corp addition of XP at first. I tried XP and I liked it a lot. I am on XP SP1 legit now because a friend of mine that is in the affiliate program was able to buy TENS of thousands of dollars worth of legit licensed copies straight from MS for only $300. He gave me a license for Win XP pro because he has more than he needs. Still...MS can be gracious when they want to be. That is damn cheap for so much software. [5 winXP, 10 OfficeXP, server, etc, etc.]

I'm using a slipstreamed SP1. No big deal in the long run making the call for a new key, I guess, just don't like not being able to use a legit copy of WINXP without the friggin' WPA hassle.

Domo arigato, MCoreD...

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Originally posted by Woogieman@Oct 3 2002, 03:06 PM
I built my first computer (wire wrapped would be the proper term) in July/August of 1974. At that time there was no DOS as there was no hard drives available. You keyed in your rudimentary OpSys commands into your machine before you could do anything - and when you turned it off, you lost everything. Quickly mag tape drives became available with S100 interface cards, allowing you to load your OpSys when you started (or even Paper Tape readers if you wanted). When hard drives came along in late '75-'76 the OpSystem to use was Gary Kildahl's Digital Research DOS (developed mostly using some US Navy dollars - although Kildahl didn't like to admit that). Gates and Allen were still working with (or for - depending on who you believe) Ed Robert's Altair Comapany down in New Mexico trying to peddle their very simple Basic interpreter - that they "borrowed from DEC's PDP series by cross compiling for Intel chips. Intels instruction set was based on the PDP series min-computers so it was a relatively easy task. At that same time there were other more sophisticated Intrepters and Compilers that you could use - but not as inexpensive as M$'s.

Later, when the first 16 Intel chips hit the market, a couple other fellows formed Seattle Computing Company and recompiled Kildahl's DOS over to 16 bits. Then in late '79/'80, IBM went to three companies to get an Operating System for what was going to be IBM's second attempt at the home desktop market (the first attempt, their 5100 series, failed because it was far too expensive). When IBM approached Kildahl to license his OpSys, he sorta told them to take a hike - lotsa stories as why he did so; but he did reluctantly agree to license the software. I have an original Digital REsearch/IBM software pack in my collection of "stuff".

IBM needed software to run on their first machines besides just a dumb OpSys, so they asked Gates & Allen to license Basic to them. When the M$ boys found out that IBM wasn't getting too much co-operation from Kildahl they volunteered to provide an OpSys along with their Basic. The fact that they didn't have an OpSys didn't bother the boys as they knew they could pick up Seattle Computings rip-off of Kidahl's OpSys for a song.

The rest is history - except now when people try to do what they did ("borrow" software, modify it for their own use - and even sell it) they get hostile.

So, do I remember DOS? Yup, I remember what it was like way before DOS!!!!!

cool

thx for this little real storie !!

Was pretty cool !!