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Sephiroth 5th Dec 03 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by MinnesotaKid@Dec 5 2003, 05:29 PM
Well, they were 10 minutes ago :)

Guess I spoke too soon. I thought that would have been a good comprimise. Anyway, probably the change is for the best.

MNKid

we can see what everyone thinks, if people want them still in their profile, it won't take me over 5 mins to reverse what i just did :)

unicorn 5th Dec 03 10:36 PM

1: I think the postcount in the profile is... Good! We don't need them in every post. From time to time though I want to see how many posts somebody is up to. That is when I se a name I can't remember, then it should be nice to be able to see what date they joined the community and how many posts has he/she done.

2: Can somebody please clear this up: Is Storminnorman = Norm = Terminated?

DoG 5th Dec 03 10:46 PM

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Originally posted by unicorn@Dec 5 2003, 11:36 PM
1: I think the postcount in the profile is... Good! We don't need them in every post. From time to time though I want to see how many posts somebody is up to. That is when I se a name I can't remember, then it should be nice to be able to see what date they joined the community and how many posts has he/she done.

2: Can somebody please clear this up: Is Storminnorman = Norm = Terminated?

So it would seem unicorn, once again he has sneaked in through the gap under the door like a bad smell. I'm just waiting for his reply before i ban him and put a draft excluder down :D

SlickVic78 5th Dec 03 10:47 PM

I think that the "Top Posters" on the main page could have been the biggest issue... I guess no more, being that is gone as well! Good move! Besides, who would have been able to catch up to Bads? :lol1:

-SlickVic78

DoG 5th Dec 03 10:56 PM

LMAO, not unless Bads stopped posting and the rest of us made a hundred posts a week for the next 20 weeks or so :P

SlickVic78 5th Dec 03 11:00 PM

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Originally posted by DoG@Dec 5 2003, 06:56 PM
LMAO, not unless Bads stopped posting and the rest of us made a hundred posts a week for the next 20 weeks or so :P
Talk about the chaos that would happen if that were to go down... That would be bad! :lol1: I hope no one gets the idea of trying... LOL Then for sure, you'd be all over them DoG! :lol1:

-SlickVic78

Sephiroth 5th Dec 03 11:01 PM

lol, i tried for a while, finally gave up, unless they extend days to 36 hours long or more i don't have time to even attempt it, lol

unicorn 5th Dec 03 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by unicorn@Dec 5 2003, 11:36 PM
1: I think the postcount in the profile is... Good! We don't need them in every post. From time to time though I want to see how many posts somebody is up to. That is when I se a name I can't remember, then it should be nice to be able to see what date they joined the community and how many posts has he/she done.

2: Can somebody please clear this up: Is Storminnorman = Norm = Terminated?

Ok, so (2:) is cleared up. Oh well... Good spot!

What about (1:)? Opinions?

DoG 5th Dec 03 11:28 PM

I don't mind the lack of visible post counts to be honest- if i don't know a name or can't remember how active a member is then i can always look them up using the search feature :)

Zone-MR 5th Dec 03 11:57 PM

I agree that postcounts do not need to be as promenent as they were previously, however I don't agree with removing them alltogether because of the actions of one or two spammers. Postcounts are useful in easilly identifying new members and welcoming them to the board, and can also encourage HEALTY competiton, encouraging members to contribute.

In regards to fisher, I can assure all members that this was an ongoing issue which the crew has been trying to resolve peacefully for quite some time. I know it is a delicate matter. Often posts considered spam by one member, can be considered a very useful contribution by others.

It did, however, get to the stage where Fisher seemingly developed an obsession with his postcount. Many of his recent posts were clearly spam by anyones standards. I do not like the idea of publicly humilliating Fisher by posting details of his actions, unless Fisher WANTS to have a sensible and open discussion about this. If labelling a message as spam is enough to get someone to stamp their feet, cry, shout, and leave, then it certainly leaves a lot of questions open about that members personallity...

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If a member is not a part of the "News Team", where do we put interesting articles we find? I put them in "Chat", but that may be incorrect. Thank you.
Posting one or two news articles you find interesting, offering your viewpoints, or starting a healthy debate on certain issues is certainly encouraged. The category will depend on the type of news. If political in nature, the "political discussion" forum is most appropriate. If they fit into any category we have a forum for, stick them there, if not, chit-chat will do.

Likewise, if there is a long awaited release of an application you use regularly, noone will have any objections in you posting, describing briefly what it is, perhaps your personal oppinions on the program, etc.

The problems would start if you went to:http://download.com.com/3140-2001-0-1-2.html?tag=dir

Saw the list of releases, like:

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#1 CD Ripper 1.72.39
AbsoluteShield Internet Eraser Pro 3.31
African Big Cats Screensaver 2.0
Amigo DVD Ripper 2.8.73
Chat Watch Professional 1.0
CloneDVD 2.1
Dewqs' Junk Mail Spittoon 1.8
... etc ...

... and then procceeded to make a seperate post about every application you saw, quoting the description given by CNET. For the full effect you could reply to some of your own posts, watching your postcount/penis grow. Of course, if someone asked you any details on these programs, you wouldn't have a clue, having never used them yourself.

When I log into BetaONE, and see the "latest posts" table on the front page being filled by a single member name, I consider it suspicious. If a brief look reveals that all posts follow the same format, having "Software title [version] released" as the subject, and the authors original description as the body, it is safe to consider it spam. If as a crew we point this out politely, and we are ignored, we have little choice but to insist a little more firmly.

Anyone can go to numerous download sites, and see the same kind of "news" I am reffering to (albeit slightly more up-to-date). I could write a PHP script to automatically fetch the list, their descriptions, and post them to BetaONE. If a members posts lack ANY indication of higher cognitive brain functionality, and could easilly be replicated by a bot, it leaves no doubt in my mind that they can safely be considered spam.


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