What you seem to be missing Tomboy is that "what already exists" is not defined in black and white and is left to interpretation. My point is who defines what "decency" or obscenity is? And what makes their view more valid than mine or anyone elses? What is to stop someone (in power) from claiming that someone elses views (not in power) are indecent and immoral and therefore illegal? It's a very thin line to walk and the fact that government is doing it is even more scary... when will the "filters" start applying to internet use? I mean, children have access to computers, right? So let's filter the net in the name of "protection" right? Hello my friends in Red China ;)

Sheesh.......and to try to take a potshot at me because my views may be different than yours is not a very tolerant way of going through life - I wish you luck :)

/JD

Still, who gives a damn!!!! haha :P

@JacKDynne

I apologize for my troll-like post earlier. I had just read the comments below about Stern and it made me wonder why anyone would willingly listen to such a vile person. I'll try to be more sensitive in my future posts. (and I am sure both you and belthazor are really great guys since you hangout at B1 :gathering: )

Tomboy

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Good riddance to Stern

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Howard Stern is a filthy, profane, vulgar, obscene disgusting pig.

He shouldn't be on the radio. He should be in the zoo.

Three cheers for Clear Channel Communication's decision to pull his show off the air temporarily. It's late, after all these years of smut-peddling on the radio, but the decision should be applauded.

It's a smart move. It's the right thing to do. It's a good business decision. Anyone who believes in right and wrong ought to know that a slimebucket like Stern has no place on the public airwaves.

In good conscience, I can't even describe adequately what Stern said on his program that got him suspended. All I will say is it had to to with the "n" word, anal sex, the size of certain parts of the male anatomy, etc. You get the idea ? the usual Howard Stern, over-the-top, shock-jock antics.

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Ah....variety is the spice of life :)

And danke for the apology as well :)

/JD

Thank you for the apology Tomboy. :)

well, I listen to stern daily, watch his proggie on the E channel, so i guess I am part of the same group of fools|!!!
proud to be associated with JD, Belt, and anyone else who watches it!

as u said Tomboy, everyone has the right to their own opinion, but we don't allow or condone flaming or bashing here..

and, its nothing more than a fricken radio show, not a statement on our culture, beliefs or anything else..just pure, entertainment, for those that want to listen..

like everything else on tv,radio, or whereever, if you dont like it, just flip the channel!!


wase4711

All,

I would like to offer a fuller reasoning for my first post without coming across as a troll. Most of you may be familar with the quaint saying "Birds of a feather flock together". Over the years I have personally observed that this is quite true. People with similar beliefs, passions and character do indeed gather together to enjoy the company of their like-minded friends. Regrettably, not all those who are like-minded are "good" people. Therefore, you have gangs in some cities who rule and terrorize certain areas as well as fight and kill other gangs who invade their turf. Similarly, you have groups like neo-natzis and skin-heads who like one another, but despise and hate other groups of people. Which brings us to the point of what I wanted to say.... it would be disingenuous for any rational person to argue that Howard Stern represents a man with high values and character that we should strive to emulate. His vulgar and obscene personality that he unashamedly flouts on his show do nothing to improve and enrich our society (not even as comedy). I contend that those who freely choose to associate with Stern by listening to his program must share to some degree his character and values. I challenge those of you who say you enjoy Stern's show to look inwardly at yourself and honestly evaluate whether or not you share Stern's values and character. If you do and are proud of it then don't be surprised if others who find Stern to be a rotten person will include you with him.

Please note that no hateful or ugly words were used in this flame free post.

Tomboy
(now putting on asbestos underwear)

I respect the way you made your post and I will be back with an edit to finish what I have to say after I type it up. :D

Edit - I also listen to and watch Howard Stern at differnt times. I also enjoy listening to the Bob & Tom show. They have a web site:

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Just because I might agree with you Tomboy on some issues don't mean I agree with all that you say or all of your values, much like Howard Stern.

who cares about Howard Sterns "values or character"?
I only listen to him because he makes me laugh; I don't over-analyze his thought processes or what he stands for. I happen to enjoy him because some of his remarks are similar to how I feel about certain issues....
as far as his character or values, since neither you nor I know him personally, its pretty judgemental to draw conclusions about that stuff..

once again, any one who isn't amused by his comments needs only to move the radio dial to a different postion..

And tomboy, even though I don't concur with the conclusions you draw, your method of expressing your feelings is perfectly allowable here..

One of the best things about this board is the diversity of options that are always expressed here!

Umm...from what I have read, I would not put that stuff anywhere NEAR my nether region if I was you :D :D :D

As for the rest - take care m8 - to each their own, live and let live :)

/JD